From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1DIhig-0004Sz-VX for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:39:27 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DIhia-0004Oq-3T for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:39:20 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DIhiP-0004Ii-Ll for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:39:11 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIhiP-0004If-IC for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:39:09 -0400 Received: from [145.74.66.11] (helo=mail-cn.han.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DIi3g-0000W9-9U for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 03:01:08 -0400 Received: from vscan-cn.han.nl (venus.han.nl [145.74.65.6]) by mail-cn.han.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5F49C2B for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:00:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-cn.han.nl ([145.74.66.11]) by vscan-cn.han.nl (venus.han.nl [145.74.65.6]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25216-02 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:00:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail1.han.nl (mail1.han.nl [145.74.103.11]) by mail-cn.han.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5089C08 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:00:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (mgerards.xs4all.nl [82.92.27.129]) by mail1.han.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A57C047 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:00:55 +0200 (CEST) Mail-Copies-To: metgerards@student.han.nl To: The development of GRUB 2 References: <78d5a6962754dbc4b0f64fb15ffd7b79@penguinppc.org> From: Marco Gerards Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:00:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: <78d5a6962754dbc4b0f64fb15ffd7b79@penguinppc.org> (Hollis Blanchard's message of "Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:38:29 -0500") Message-ID: <87sm25aes8.fsf@student.han.nl> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new (2.2.0) at vscan-cn.han.nl Subject: Re: partition layouts X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 06:39:23 -0000 Hollis Blanchard writes: > The grub ELF file must live on a firmware-native filesystem. When run, > it can find out what partition it was booted from, so that is a > natural place to load grub.cfg from as well (and why not modules while > we're at it?). Thus this is the value of the "prefix" GRUB environment > variable. Sounds fine to me, assuming things work like we discussed about. > Can we have a shortcut to avoid specifying that "(hd,7)/" part > repeatedly? I think that was the "root" command in GRUB Legacy, which > was replaced by the "prefix" environment variable? But as I mentioned, > "prefix" doesn't have the meaning we're looking for here... There is the root variable, but IIRC there were some problems or so. Anyway, it is how it will work. :) > The other possibility is to have all of /boot as a firmware-native > filesystem. I think that's not ideal though, because those filesystems > (HFS+, FAT) might not support features like symlinks or Unix-style > permissions, or may not be as well-tested as Linux-native filesystems. HFS+ supports symlinks, FAT does not (unless you use UMSDOS, which is not supported). For every symlink capable filesystem GRUB 2 supports, symlink support was implemented. Personally I do not care very much how it will work in practise. The main important thing for me is that we can support both of your proposals. I think we just have to try both, when possible on many different machines. Thanks, Marco