From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kraxel@redhat.com,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] hw/i386: Deprecate the machines pc-0.10 to pc-0.15
Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 17:37:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tw4su3iw.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e8f7410f-98d9-2e0e-b75d-0ff38fd81b35@redhat.com> (Thomas Huth's message of "Wed, 10 May 2017 12:05:16 +0200")
Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com> writes:
> On 10.05.2017 11:08, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 08:48:53AM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
[...]
>> Also unless we're going to get more serious about automated testing to
>> validate machine type compatibility between *all* previously releases,
>> I think that 6 years / 18 releases is too long a time to have any
>> confidence in migration compatibility between versions.
Seconded.
> Distro vendors often offer 5 - 10 years support for certain versions of
> their Linux distros, so I think we should at least support 5 years, too.
Non sequitur.
Distro vendors put in serious work to keep versions working for 5 - 10
years. We can't, and we don't. All we do is try not to break things,
which is nice, and helps the distro vendors some, but a far cry from
anything I'd dare call "support".
Perhaps an argument could be made that us keeping to try for at least 5
years would help distro vendors enough to be worthwhile. Maybe, but
color me skeptic.
>> IOW, I think you should be more aggressive in culling old machine types
>> that this patch is...
>
> Actually, I like the idea of using the major release versions for
> defining the set of removal - hoping that we will do a v3.0 next year
> which then would support the previous two major release versions 1.x and
> 2.x, but drops support for the 0.xx versions completely ...
I wouldn't put *that* much weight into our past version numbers. If I
remember correctly, there was no more to 1.0 than a feeling of "this 0.x
thing is getting ridiculous".
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-05-10 15:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-05-10 6:48 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] hw/i386: Deprecate the machines pc-0.10 to pc-0.15 Thomas Huth
2017-05-10 9:08 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-05-10 10:05 ` Thomas Huth
2017-05-10 10:31 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-05-10 14:47 ` Thomas Huth
2017-05-10 16:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-11 7:06 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-05-11 7:21 ` Thomas Huth
2017-05-11 9:30 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-05-11 15:10 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-05-12 6:55 ` Thomas Huth
2017-05-10 15:37 ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2017-05-10 15:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-10 19:04 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-11 7:20 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-05-10 14:51 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-10 15:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-05-10 15:14 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-11 7:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-05-10 15:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
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