From: Stewart Smith <stewart@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz>
Cc: bhe@redhat.com, arnd@arndb.de, dyoung@redhat.com,
kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
vgoyal@redhat.com, AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauerman@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] extend kexec_file_load system call
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:59:51 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87twfunneg.fsf@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160712221804.GV1041@n2100.armlinux.org.uk>
Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk> writes:
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 10:58:05PM +0200, Petr Tesarik wrote:
>> I'm not an expert on DTB, so I can't provide an example of code
>> execution, but you have already mentioned the /chosen/linux,stdout-path
>> property. If an attacker redirects the bootloader to an insecure
>> console, they may get access to the system that would otherwise be
>> impossible.
>
> I fail to see how kexec connects with the boot loader - the DTB image
> that's being talked about is one which is passed from the currently
> running kernel to the to-be-kexec'd kernel. For ARM (and I suspect
> also ARM64) that's a direct call chain which doesn't involve any
> boot loader or firmware, and certainly none that would involve the
> passed DTB image.
For OpenPOWER machines, kexec is the bootloader. Our bootloader is a
linux kernel and initramfs with a UI (petitboot) - this means we never
have to write a device driver twice: write a kernel one and you're done
(for booting from the device and using it in your OS).
--
Stewart Smith
OPAL Architect, IBM.
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From: Stewart Smith <stewart@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, bhe@redhat.com,
arnd@arndb.de, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauerman@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
dyoung@redhat.com, vgoyal@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] extend kexec_file_load system call
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:59:51 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87twfunneg.fsf@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160712221804.GV1041@n2100.armlinux.org.uk>
Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk> writes:
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 10:58:05PM +0200, Petr Tesarik wrote:
>> I'm not an expert on DTB, so I can't provide an example of code
>> execution, but you have already mentioned the /chosen/linux,stdout-path
>> property. If an attacker redirects the bootloader to an insecure
>> console, they may get access to the system that would otherwise be
>> impossible.
>
> I fail to see how kexec connects with the boot loader - the DTB image
> that's being talked about is one which is passed from the currently
> running kernel to the to-be-kexec'd kernel. For ARM (and I suspect
> also ARM64) that's a direct call chain which doesn't involve any
> boot loader or firmware, and certainly none that would involve the
> passed DTB image.
For OpenPOWER machines, kexec is the bootloader. Our bootloader is a
linux kernel and initramfs with a UI (petitboot) - this means we never
have to write a device driver twice: write a kernel one and you're done
(for booting from the device and using it in your OS).
--
Stewart Smith
OPAL Architect, IBM.
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From: stewart@linux.vnet.ibm.com (Stewart Smith)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC 0/3] extend kexec_file_load system call
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:59:51 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87twfunneg.fsf@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160712221804.GV1041@n2100.armlinux.org.uk>
Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk> writes:
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 10:58:05PM +0200, Petr Tesarik wrote:
>> I'm not an expert on DTB, so I can't provide an example of code
>> execution, but you have already mentioned the /chosen/linux,stdout-path
>> property. If an attacker redirects the bootloader to an insecure
>> console, they may get access to the system that would otherwise be
>> impossible.
>
> I fail to see how kexec connects with the boot loader - the DTB image
> that's being talked about is one which is passed from the currently
> running kernel to the to-be-kexec'd kernel. For ARM (and I suspect
> also ARM64) that's a direct call chain which doesn't involve any
> boot loader or firmware, and certainly none that would involve the
> passed DTB image.
For OpenPOWER machines, kexec is the bootloader. Our bootloader is a
linux kernel and initramfs with a UI (petitboot) - this means we never
have to write a device driver twice: write a kernel one and you're done
(for booting from the device and using it in your OS).
--
Stewart Smith
OPAL Architect, IBM.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-07-13 5:00 UTC|newest]
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2016-07-12 1:41 [RFC 0/3] extend kexec_file_load system call AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12 1:41 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12 1:41 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12 1:41 ` [RFC 1/3] syscall: add kexec_file_load to generic unistd.h AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12 1:41 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12 1:41 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12 1:42 ` [RFC 2/3] kexec: add dtb info to struct kimage AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12 1:42 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12 1:42 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12 1:42 ` [RFC 3/3] kexec: extend kexec_file_load system call AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12 1:42 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12 1:42 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-15 13:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-15 13:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-15 13:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-15 13:19 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-15 13:19 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-15 13:19 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-18 2:30 ` Dave Young
2016-07-18 2:30 ` Dave Young
2016-07-18 2:30 ` Dave Young
2016-07-18 10:07 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-18 10:07 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-18 10:07 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-19 0:55 ` Dave Young
2016-07-19 0:55 ` Dave Young
2016-07-19 0:55 ` Dave Young
2016-07-19 10:52 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-19 10:52 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-19 10:52 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-19 12:24 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-19 12:24 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-19 12:24 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-19 12:47 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-19 12:47 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-19 12:47 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-19 13:26 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-19 13:26 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-19 13:26 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-20 11:41 ` David Laight
2016-07-20 11:41 ` David Laight
2016-07-20 11:41 ` David Laight
2016-07-20 11:41 ` David Laight
2016-07-21 9:21 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-21 9:21 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-21 9:21 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-18 2:33 ` Dave Young
2016-07-18 2:33 ` Dave Young
2016-07-18 2:33 ` Dave Young
2016-07-27 0:24 ` [PATCH v2 " Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-27 0:24 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-27 0:24 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-08-05 20:46 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-08-05 20:46 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-08-05 20:46 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-12 13:25 ` [RFC 0/3] " Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-12 13:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-12 13:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-12 13:58 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-12 13:58 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-12 13:58 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-12 14:02 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-12 14:02 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-12 14:02 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-12 23:45 ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-12 23:45 ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-12 23:45 ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13 13:27 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-13 13:27 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-13 13:27 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-12 14:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-12 14:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-12 14:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-12 14:18 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-12 14:18 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-12 14:18 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-12 14:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-12 14:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-12 14:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-12 14:50 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-12 14:50 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-12 14:50 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13 2:36 ` Dave Young
2016-07-13 2:36 ` Dave Young
2016-07-13 2:36 ` Dave Young
2016-07-13 8:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-13 8:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-13 8:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-13 8:23 ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13 8:23 ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13 8:23 ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13 9:41 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13 9:41 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13 9:41 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13 13:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-13 13:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-13 13:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-13 18:45 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-13 18:45 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-13 18:45 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-13 19:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-13 19:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-13 19:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-14 2:18 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-14 2:18 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-14 2:18 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-14 8:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-14 8:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-14 8:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-15 1:44 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-15 1:44 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-15 1:44 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-15 7:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-15 7:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-15 7:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-15 13:26 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-15 13:26 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-15 13:26 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-15 13:33 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-15 13:33 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-15 13:33 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-15 15:29 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-15 15:29 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-15 15:29 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-15 15:47 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-15 15:47 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-15 15:47 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-15 13:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-15 13:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-15 13:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-15 20:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-15 20:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-15 20:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-15 21:03 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-15 21:03 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-15 21:03 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-22 0:09 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-22 0:09 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-22 0:09 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-22 0:53 ` Jeremy Kerr
2016-07-22 0:53 ` Jeremy Kerr
2016-07-22 0:53 ` Jeremy Kerr
2016-07-22 2:54 ` Michael Ellerman
2016-07-22 2:54 ` Michael Ellerman
2016-07-22 2:54 ` Michael Ellerman
2016-07-22 20:41 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-22 20:41 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-22 20:41 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-15 8:49 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-15 8:49 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-15 8:49 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-15 13:03 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-15 13:03 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-15 13:03 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-13 9:34 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13 9:34 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13 9:34 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13 17:38 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-13 17:38 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-13 17:38 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-13 17:58 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13 17:58 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13 17:58 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13 19:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-13 19:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-13 19:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-14 12:42 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-14 12:42 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-14 12:42 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-14 1:54 ` Dave Young
2016-07-14 1:54 ` Dave Young
2016-07-14 1:54 ` Dave Young
2016-07-14 1:50 ` Dave Young
2016-07-14 1:50 ` Dave Young
2016-07-14 1:50 ` Dave Young
2016-07-12 16:25 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-12 16:25 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-12 16:25 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-12 20:58 ` Petr Tesarik
2016-07-12 20:58 ` Petr Tesarik
2016-07-12 20:58 ` Petr Tesarik
2016-07-12 21:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-12 21:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-12 21:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-12 21:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-12 21:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-12 21:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-12 21:53 ` Petr Tesarik
2016-07-12 21:53 ` Petr Tesarik
2016-07-12 21:53 ` Petr Tesarik
2016-07-12 22:18 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
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2016-07-13 8:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-13 8:36 ` Dave Young
2016-07-13 8:36 ` Dave Young
2016-07-13 8:36 ` Dave Young
2016-07-13 8:57 ` Petr Tesarik
2016-07-13 8:57 ` Petr Tesarik
2016-07-13 8:57 ` Petr Tesarik
2016-07-13 13:03 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-13 13:03 ` Vivek Goyal
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2016-07-13 17:40 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
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2016-07-13 18:22 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-13 18:22 ` Vivek Goyal
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2016-07-20 8:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
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2016-07-20 10:47 ` Michael Ellerman
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2016-07-20 15:50 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
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