From: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Lukas Straub <lukasstraub2@web.de>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Zhang Chen <zhangckid@gmail.com>,
Hailiang Zhang <zhanghailiang@xfusion.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Li Zhijian <lizhijian@fujitsu.com>,
"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dave@treblig.org>,
Juan Quintela <quintela@trasno.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/10] multifd: Add COLO support
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2026 09:30:24 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v7glgbrz.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aXkh0Sy9WUqi_3Rr@x1.local>
Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at 06:37:31PM -0300, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
>> Lukas Straub <lukasstraub2@web.de> writes:
>>
>> >> > +void multifd_colo_prepare_recv(MultiFDRecvParams *p)
>> >> > +{
>> >> > + /*
>> >> > + * While we're still in precopy state (not yet in colo state), we copy
>> >> > + * received pages to both guest and cache. No need to set dirty bits,
>> >> > + * since guest and cache memory are in sync.
>> >> > + */
>> >> > + if (migration_incoming_in_colo_state()) {
>> >>
>> >> What's the relationship between migration_incoming_in_colo_state() and
>> >> migration_incoming_colo_enabled()? ram_load_precopy() checks both. Would
>> >> migration_incoming_colo_enabled affect multifd as well?
>> >
>> > So first off migration_incoming_colo_enabled() and migrate_colo()
>> > are equivalent in practice since
>> > 121ccedc2b migration: block incoming colo when capability is disabled
>> >
>> > (I have some cleanup patches lying around, but that will be for later)
>> >
>>
>> Ok, I think those are important because when having multifd and
>> non-multifd code for the same feature, it's useful to be able to compare
>> the two. So some degree of uniformity would be nice.
>
> I second. We can drop those in this series before adding multifd support,
> likely together with MIG_CMD_ENABLE_COLO as well; I don't think COLO needs
> to worry about old binaries. It should always use the same QEMU binary on
> both sides.
>
> The patch needs to rename MIG_CMD_ENABLE_COLO to MIG_CMD_DEPRECATED_0 or
> something, to make the rest MIG_CMD compatible to old binaries, though.
>
>>
>> > For colo, we do normal precopy migration and at the end we go into colo
>> > state and then
>> > migration_incoming_in_colo_state() will be true.
>> >
>> > Here we check migrate_colo() outside of these functions as Peter
>> > requested that in a previous version.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> The multifd recv threads will be running until after
>> >> process_incoming_migration_bh(), which is when
>> >> migration_incoming_disable_colo() runs.
>> >
>> > That is not an issue as we use migrate_colo() here.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Also, is the colo_cache guaranteed to be around until multifd threads
>> >> exit?
>> >
>> > This is an issue. I will fix it in the next version.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> > + colo_record_bitmap(p->block, p->normal, p->normal_num);
>> >> > + colo_record_bitmap(p->block, p->zero, p->zero_num);
>> >> > + }
>> >> > +}
>> >> > +
>> >> > +void multifd_colo_process_recv(MultiFDRecvParams *p)
>> >> > +{
>> >> > + if (!migration_incoming_in_colo_state()) {
>> >> > + for (int i = 0; i < p->normal_num; i++) {
>> >> > + void *guest = p->block->host + p->normal[i];
>> >> > + void *cache = p->host + p->normal[i];
>> >> > + memcpy(guest, cache, multifd_ram_page_size());
>> >> > + }
>> >>
>> >> I see some differences between what ram.c does and what multifd will do
>> >> after this patch regarding which flags are checked and order of copies
>> >> (code below):
>> >>
>> >> ram.c:
>> >>
>> >> - migration_incoming_colo_enabled && migration_incoming_in_colo_state:
>> >> Reads from stream into colo_cache.
>> >>
>> >> - migration_incoming_colo_enabled && !migration_incoming_in_colo_state:
>> >> Reads from stream into guest and then memcpy into colo_cache.
>> >>
>> >> - !migration_incoming_colo_enabled
>> >> Reads from stream into guest.
>> >>
>> >> multifd.c:
>> >>
>> >> - migrate_colo:
>> >> Reads from stream into colo_cache.
>> >>
>> >> - !migration_incoming_in_colo_state:
>> >> memcpy from colo_cache into guest.
>> >>
>> >> - !migration_incoming_colo_enabled
>> >> ???
>> >>
>> >> The resulting state should be the same, but I wonder if we want to i) use
>> >> the same checks in multifd
>> >
>> > migration_incoming_colo_enabled() shouldn't even exist anymore, so I'm
>> > not using it here. migrate_colo() is much easier to reason about.
>> >
>> >> and ii) when not in colo state, copy first
>> >> into guest (using readv) and later memcpy into the colo_cache.
>> >
>> > I think it is easier the way it is now.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> ---
>> >> ram.c:
>> >>
>> >> host = host_from_ram_block_offset(block, addr);
>> >> if (migration_incoming_colo_enabled()) {
>> >> if (migration_incoming_in_colo_state()) {
>> >> host = colo_cache_from_block_offset(block, addr, true);
>> >> } else {
>> >> host_bak = colo_cache_from_block_offset(block, addr, false);
>> >> }
>> >> }
>> >> qemu_get_buffer(f, host, TARGET_PAGE_SIZE);
>> >> if (host_bak) {
>> >> memcpy(host_bak, host, TARGET_PAGE_SIZE);
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> multifd:
>> >>
>> >> if (migrate_colo()) {
>> >> p->host = p->block->colo_cache;
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> for (int i = 0; i < p->normal_num; i++) {
>> >> p->iov[i].iov_base = p->host + p->normal[i];
>> >> }
>> >> return qio_channel_readv_all(p->c, p->iov, p->normal_num, errp);
>> >>
>> >> if (!migration_incoming_in_colo_state()) {
>> >> for (int i = 0; i < p->normal_num; i++) {
>> >> void *guest = p->block->host + p->normal[i];
>> >> void *cache = p->host + p->normal[i];
>> >> memcpy(guest, cache, multifd_ram_page_size());
>> >> }
>> >> }
>> >> ---
>> >>
>> >> > + for (int i = 0; i < p->zero_num; i++) {
>> >> > + void *guest = p->block->host + p->zero[i];
>> >> > + memset(guest, 0, multifd_ram_page_size());
>> >> > + }
>> >>
>> >> At multifd_nocomp_recv, there will be a call to
>> >> multifd_recv_zero_page_process(), which by that point will have p->host
>> >> == p->block->colo_cache, so it looks like that function will do some
>> >> zero page processing in the colo_cache, setting the rb->receivedmap for
>> >> pages in the colo_cache and potentially also doing a memcpy. Is this
>> >> intended?
>> >
>> > rb->receivedmap is only for postcopy, right? So it doesn't apply with
>> > colo.
>> >
>>
>> It's not anymore since commit 5ef7e26bdb ("migration/multifd: solve zero
>> page causing multiple page faults"). So it seems we might be doing extra
>> work on top of the colo_cache.
>
> IIUC not extra, but exactly what will be needed.
>
> The logic was about "in a vanilla precopy, if we see one page arriving the
> 1st time we don't need to zero the buffer because the buffer should be zero
> allocated".
>
> In COLO's case, COLO always puts RAM data into colo_cache, hence it should
> apply to colo_cache too, avoiding unnecessary memset() for colo_cache
> instead.
>
> E.g. colo_cache is allocated from qemu_anon_ram_alloc(), it's also
> guaranteed to be zeros when never touched.
>
>>
>> >>
>> >> I'm thinking that maybe it would overall be better to hook colo directly
>> >> in to multifd_nocomp_recv:
>> >
>> > But then it will only work for nocomp, right? It feels like the wrong
>> > level of abstraction to me.
>> >
>>
>> Ah, nocomp != ram indeed.
>>
>> >>
>> >> static int multifd_nocomp_recv(MultiFDRecvParams *p, Error **errp)
>> >> {
>> >> uint32_t flags;
>> >>
>> >> if (migrate_mapped_ram()) {
>> >> return multifd_file_recv_data(p, errp);
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> flags = p->flags & MULTIFD_FLAG_COMPRESSION_MASK;
>> >>
>> >> if (flags != MULTIFD_FLAG_NOCOMP) {
>> >> error_setg(errp, "multifd %u: flags received %x flags expected %x",
>> >> p->id, flags, MULTIFD_FLAG_NOCOMP);
>> >> return -1;
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> + if (migration_incoming_colo_enabled() && migration_incoming_in_colo_state()) {
>> >> + p->host = p->block->colo_cache;
>> >> + } // or else{}, depending on how deal with zero pages in the cache
>> >>
>> >> multifd_recv_zero_page_process(p);
>> >>
>> >> if (!p->normal_num) {
>> >> return 0;
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> for (int i = 0; i < p->normal_num; i++) {
>> >> p->iov[i].iov_base = p->host + p->normal[i];
>> >> p->iov[i].iov_len = multifd_ram_page_size();
>> >> ramblock_recv_bitmap_set_offset(p->block, p->normal[i]);
>> >> }
>> >> + ret = qio_channel_readv_all(p->c, p->iov, p->normal_num, errp);
>> >> + if (ret != 0) {
>> >> + return ret;
>> >> + }
>> >> +
>> >> + if (migration_incoming_colo_enabled()) {
>> >> + multifd_colo_process_recv();
>> >> + }
>> >>
>> >> return ret;
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > + }
>> >> > +}
>> >> > diff --git a/migration/multifd-colo.h b/migration/multifd-colo.h
>> >> > new file mode 100644
>> >> > index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..82eaf3f48c47de2f090f9de52f9d57a337d4754a
>> >> > --- /dev/null
>> >> > +++ b/migration/multifd-colo.h
>> >> > @@ -0,0 +1,26 @@
>> >> > +/*
>> >> > + * SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-or-later
>> >> > + *
>> >> > + * multifd colo header
>> >> > + *
>> >> > + * Copyright (c) Lukas Straub <lukasstraub2@web.de>
>> >> > + *
>> >> > + * This work is licensed under the terms of the GNU GPL, version 2 or later.
>> >> > + * See the COPYING file in the top-level directory.
>> >> > + */
>> >> > +
>> >> > +#ifndef QEMU_MIGRATION_MULTIFD_COLO_H
>> >> > +#define QEMU_MIGRATION_MULTIFD_COLO_H
>> >> > +
>> >> > +#ifdef CONFIG_REPLICATION
>> >> > +
>> >> > +void multifd_colo_prepare_recv(MultiFDRecvParams *p);
>> >> > +void multifd_colo_process_recv(MultiFDRecvParams *p);
>> >> > +
>> >> > +#else
>> >> > +
>> >> > +static inline void multifd_colo_prepare_recv(MultiFDRecvParams *p) {}
>> >> > +static inline void multifd_colo_process_recv(MultiFDRecvParams *p) {}
>> >> > +
>> >> > +#endif
>> >> > +#endif
>> >> > diff --git a/migration/multifd-nocomp.c b/migration/multifd-nocomp.c
>> >> > index 9be79b3b8e00371ebff9e112766c225bec260bf7..9f7a792fa761b3bc30b971b35f464103a61787f0 100644
>> >> > --- a/migration/multifd-nocomp.c
>> >> > +++ b/migration/multifd-nocomp.c
>> >> > @@ -16,6 +16,7 @@
>> >> > #include "file.h"
>> >> > #include "migration-stats.h"
>> >> > #include "multifd.h"
>> >> > +#include "multifd-colo.h"
>> >> > #include "options.h"
>> >> > #include "migration.h"
>> >> > #include "qapi/error.h"
>> >> > @@ -269,7 +270,6 @@ int multifd_ram_unfill_packet(MultiFDRecvParams *p, Error **errp)
>> >> > return -1;
>> >> > }
>> >> >
>> >> > - p->host = p->block->host;
>> >> > for (i = 0; i < p->normal_num; i++) {
>> >> > uint64_t offset = be64_to_cpu(packet->offset[i]);
>> >> >
>> >> > @@ -294,6 +294,14 @@ int multifd_ram_unfill_packet(MultiFDRecvParams *p, Error **errp)
>> >> > p->zero[i] = offset;
>> >> > }
>> >> >
>> >> > + if (migrate_colo()) {
>> >> > + multifd_colo_prepare_recv(p);
>> >> > + assert(p->block->colo_cache);
>> >> > + p->host = p->block->colo_cache;
>> >>
>> >> Can't you just use p->block->colo_cache later? I don't see why p->host
>> >> needs to be set beforehand even in the non-colo case.
>> >
>> > We should not touch the guest ram directly while in colo state, since
>> > the incoming guest is running and we either want to receive and apply a
>> > whole checkpoint with all ram into colo cache and all device state,
>> > or if anything goes wrong during checkpointing, keep the currently
>> > running guest on the incoming side in pristine state.
>> >
>>
>> I was asking about setting p->host at this specific point. I don't think
>> any of this fits the unfill function. However, I see those were
>> suggested by Peter so let's not go back and forth.
>
> Actually I don't know why p->host existed before this work; IIUC we could
> have always used p->block->host. Maybe when Juan was developing this Juan
> kept COLO in mind; or maybe Juan wanted to avoid frequent p->block pointer
> reference.
>
Maybe p->block was being reset at some point and p->host was passed
being the point where the (whatever) lock was release. I checked and
today there's no such thing. The p->mutex seems to be there just to
protect against this in multifd_recv_sync_main:
WITH_QEMU_LOCK_GUARD(&p->mutex) {
if (multifd_recv_state->packet_num < p->packet_num) {
multifd_recv_state->packet_num = p->packet_num;
}
}
> IIUC, we could remove p->host, but when we need to access "the buffer of
> the ramblock" we'll need to call a helper to fetch that (either ramblock's
> buffer, or colo_cache, per migrate_colo()). And it might be slightly
> slower than p->host indeed.
>
Yeah, let's keep it, the compression code also uses it, there's no point
removing it now.
>>
>> > I have written more about colo migration here:
>> >
>> > https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20260117204913.584e1829@penguin/
>> > https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/aXE1i9xJ81EWokYz@x1.local/
>> >
>> >>
>> >> > + } else {
>> >> > + p->host = p->block->host;
>> >> > + }
>> >> > +
>> >> > return 0;
>> >> > }
>> >> >
>> >> > diff --git a/migration/multifd.c b/migration/multifd.c
>> >> > index 332e6fc58053462419f3171f6c320ac37648ef7b..220ed8564960fdabc58e4baa069dd252c8ad293c 100644
>> >> > --- a/migration/multifd.c
>> >> > +++ b/migration/multifd.c
>> >> > @@ -29,6 +29,7 @@
>> >> > #include "qemu-file.h"
>> >> > #include "trace.h"
>> >> > #include "multifd.h"
>> >> > +#include "multifd-colo.h"
>> >> > #include "options.h"
>> >> > #include "qemu/yank.h"
>> >> > #include "io/channel-file.h"
>> >> > @@ -1258,6 +1259,13 @@ static int multifd_ram_state_recv(MultiFDRecvParams *p, Error **errp)
>> >> > int ret;
>> >> >
>> >> > ret = multifd_recv_state->ops->recv(p, errp);
>> >> > + if (ret != 0) {
>> >> > + return ret;
>> >> > + }
>> >> > +
>> >> > + if (migrate_colo()) {
>> >> > + multifd_colo_process_recv(p);
>> >> > + }
>> >>
>> >> Either put all of colo hooks in multifd.c or multifd-nocomp.c. I think
>> >> the latter is more appropriate as we have mapped_ram already in
>> >> there. Let's drop patch 3 and put this in multifd_nocomp_recv().
>> >
>> > Again, it also should work with compression and multifd_nocomp_recv()
>> > is for nocomp only.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > return ret;
>> >> > }
>> >> > diff --git a/migration/multifd.h b/migration/multifd.h
>> >> > index 89a395aef2b09a6762c45b5361e0ab63256feff6..fbc35702b062fdc3213ce92baed35994f5967c2b 100644
>> >> > --- a/migration/multifd.h
>> >> > +++ b/migration/multifd.h
>> >> > @@ -279,7 +279,10 @@ typedef struct {
>> >> > uint64_t packets_recved;
>> >> > /* ramblock */
>> >> > RAMBlock *block;
>> >> > - /* ramblock host address */
>> >> > + /*
>> >> > + * Normally, it points to ramblock's host address. When COLO
>> >> > + * is enabled, it points to the mirror cache for the ramblock.
>> >> > + */
>> >> > uint8_t *host;
>> >> > /* buffers to recv */
>> >> > struct iovec *iov;
>>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-28 12:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-25 20:40 [PATCH v3 00/10] migration: Add COLO multifd support and COLO migration unit test Lukas Straub
2026-01-25 20:40 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] MAINTAINERS: Add myself as maintainer for COLO migration framework Lukas Straub
2026-01-25 20:40 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] MAINTAINERS: Remove Hailiang Zhang from " Lukas Straub
2026-01-25 20:40 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] Move ram state receive into multifd_ram_state_recv() Lukas Straub
2026-01-26 12:51 ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-01-25 20:40 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] multifd: Add COLO support Lukas Straub
2026-01-26 10:36 ` Zhang Chen
2026-01-26 11:13 ` Lukas Straub
2026-01-26 14:33 ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-01-26 19:33 ` Lukas Straub
2026-01-26 21:37 ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-01-27 20:36 ` Peter Xu
2026-01-28 12:30 ` Fabiano Rosas [this message]
2026-01-28 14:09 ` Peter Xu
2026-01-28 20:02 ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-02-03 9:47 ` Lukas Straub
2026-01-25 20:40 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] colo: Fix crash during device vmstate load Lukas Straub
2026-01-27 20:38 ` Peter Xu
2026-01-30 12:49 ` Lukas Straub
2026-02-02 14:12 ` Peter Xu
2026-02-03 9:25 ` Lukas Straub
2026-01-25 20:40 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] migration-test: Add COLO migration unit test Lukas Straub
2026-01-26 14:40 ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-01-27 20:49 ` Peter Xu
2026-01-30 10:24 ` Lukas Straub
2026-02-02 14:26 ` Peter Xu
2026-02-03 9:18 ` Lukas Straub
2026-02-03 21:21 ` Peter Xu
2026-02-06 19:11 ` Lukas Straub
2026-01-28 12:32 ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-01-25 20:40 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] Convert colo main documentation to restructuredText Lukas Straub
2026-01-25 20:40 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] qemu-colo.rst: Miscellaneous changes Lukas Straub
2026-01-26 10:21 ` Zhang Chen
2026-01-26 10:56 ` Lukas Straub
2026-01-25 20:40 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] qemu-colo.rst: Add my copyright Lukas Straub
2026-01-26 10:23 ` Zhang Chen
2026-01-25 20:40 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] qemu-colo.rst: Simplify the block replication setup Lukas Straub
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