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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: andrew.cooper3@citrix.com, Xin Li <xin3.li@intel.com>,
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	x86@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com, luto@kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 03/38] x86/msr: Add the WRMSRNS instruction support
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2023 02:12:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v8cc1ehe.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7ba4ae3e-f75d-66a8-7669-b6eb17c1aa1c@citrix.com>

On Fri, Sep 15 2023 at 00:46, andrew wrote:
> On 15/09/2023 12:00 am, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> So no. I'm fundamentally disagreeing with your recommendation. The way
>> forward is:
>>
>>   1) Provide the native variant for wrmsrns(), i.e. rename the proposed
>>      wrmsrns() to native_wrmsr_ns() and have the X86_FEATURE_WRMSRNS
>>      safety net as you pointed out.
>>
>>      That function can be used in code which is guaranteed to be not
>>      affected by the PV_XXL madness.
>>
>>   2) Come up with a sensible solution for the PV_XXL horrorshow
>>
>>   3) Implement a sane general variant of wrmsr_ns() which handles
>>      both X86_FEATURE_WRMSRNS and X86_MISFEATURE_PV_XXL
>>
>>   4) Convert other code which benefits from the non-serializing variant
>>      to wrmsr_ns()
>
> Well - point 1 is mostly work that needs reverting as part of completing
> point 3, and point 2 clearly needs doing irrespective of anything else.

No. #1 has a value on its own independent of the general variant in #3.

>>      That function can be used in code which is guaranteed to be not
>>      affected by the PV_XXL madness.

That makes a lot of sense because it's guaranteed to generate better
code than whatever we come up with for the PV_XXL nonsense.

Thanks,

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-15  0:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-14  4:47 [PATCH v10 00/38] x86: enable FRED for x86-64 Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 01/38] x86/cpufeatures: Add the cpu feature bit for WRMSRNS Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 02/38] x86/opcode: Add the WRMSRNS instruction to the x86 opcode map Xin Li
2023-09-15  5:47   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 03/38] x86/msr: Add the WRMSRNS instruction support Xin Li
2023-09-14  6:02   ` Juergen Gross
2023-09-14 13:01     ` andrew.cooper3
2023-09-14 14:05   ` andrew.cooper3
2023-09-14 23:00     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-14 23:34       ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-09-14 23:46       ` andrew.cooper3
2023-09-15  0:12         ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2023-09-15  0:33           ` andrew.cooper3
2023-09-15  0:38             ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-09-15  1:46               ` andrew.cooper3
2023-09-15  2:06                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-09-15  0:42         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-15  1:01         ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-09-15  1:16           ` andrew.cooper3
2023-09-15  5:32             ` Juergen Gross
2023-09-20 15:00             ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-20 15:04               ` Juergen Gross
2023-09-20  7:58   ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-09-20  8:18     ` Li, Xin3
2023-09-22  8:16       ` Li, Xin3
2023-09-22 15:00         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-22 23:21           ` Li, Xin3
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 04/38] x86/entry: Remove idtentry_sysvec from entry_{32,64}.S Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 05/38] x86/trapnr: Add event type macros to <asm/trapnr.h> Xin Li
2023-09-14 14:22   ` andrew.cooper3
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 06/38] Documentation/x86/64: Add a documentation for FRED Xin Li
2023-09-20  9:44   ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 07/38] x86/fred: Add Kconfig option for FRED (CONFIG_X86_FRED) Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 08/38] x86/cpufeatures: Add the cpu feature bit for FRED Xin Li
2023-09-14  6:03   ` Juergen Gross
2023-09-14  6:09     ` Jan Beulich
2023-09-14 13:15       ` andrew.cooper3
2023-09-15  1:07         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-15  5:27           ` Juergen Gross
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 09/38] x86/fred: Disable FRED support if CONFIG_X86_FRED is disabled Xin Li
2023-09-20 10:19   ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 10/38] x86/fred: Disable FRED by default in its early stage Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 11/38] x86/opcode: Add ERET[US] instructions to the x86 opcode map Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 12/38] x86/objtool: Teach objtool about ERET[US] Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 13/38] x86/cpu: Add X86_CR4_FRED macro Xin Li
2023-09-20 10:50   ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-09-20 17:25     ` Li, Xin3
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 14/38] x86/cpu: Add MSR numbers for FRED configuration Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 15/38] x86/ptrace: Cleanup the definition of the pt_regs structure Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 16/38] x86/ptrace: Add FRED additional information to " Xin Li
2023-09-20 12:57   ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-09-20 17:23     ` Li, Xin3
2023-09-21  6:07       ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-09-21  6:24         ` Li, Xin3
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 17/38] x86/fred: Add a new header file for FRED definitions Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 18/38] x86/fred: Reserve space for the FRED stack frame Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 19/38] x86/fred: Update MSR_IA32_FRED_RSP0 during task switch Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 20/38] x86/fred: Disallow the swapgs instruction when FRED is enabled Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 21/38] x86/fred: No ESPFIX needed " Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 22/38] x86/fred: Allow single-step trap and NMI when starting a new task Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 23/38] x86/fred: Make exc_page_fault() work for FRED Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 24/38] x86/idtentry: Incorporate definitions/declarations of the FRED entries Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 25/38] x86/fred: Add a debug fault entry stub for FRED Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 26/38] x86/fred: Add a NMI " Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 27/38] x86/fred: Add a machine check " Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 28/38] x86/fred: FRED entry/exit and dispatch code Xin Li
2023-09-21  9:48   ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-09-21 10:08     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-21 17:54       ` Li, Xin3
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 29/38] x86/traps: Add sysvec_install() to install a system interrupt handler Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 30/38] x86/fred: Let ret_from_fork_asm() jmp to asm_fred_exit_user when FRED is enabled Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 31/38] x86/fred: Fixup fault on ERETU by jumping to fred_entrypoint_user Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:47 ` [PATCH v10 32/38] x86/entry/calling: Allow PUSH_AND_CLEAR_REGS being used beyond actual entry code Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:48 ` [PATCH v10 33/38] x86/entry: Add fred_entry_from_kvm() for VMX to handle IRQ/NMI Xin Li
2023-09-20 17:54   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-09-20 23:10     ` Li, Xin3
2023-09-21 12:11   ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-09-21 12:38     ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-09-14  4:48 ` [PATCH v10 34/38] KVM: VMX: Call fred_entry_from_kvm() for IRQ/NMI handling Xin Li
2023-09-20 17:54   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-09-14  4:48 ` [PATCH v10 35/38] x86/syscall: Split IDT syscall setup code into idt_syscall_init() Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:48 ` [PATCH v10 36/38] x86/fred: Add fred_syscall_init() Xin Li
2023-09-19  8:28   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-20  4:33     ` Li, Xin3
2023-09-20  8:18       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-21  2:24         ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-09-14  4:48 ` [PATCH v10 37/38] x86/fred: Add FRED initialization functions Xin Li
2023-09-14  4:48 ` [PATCH v10 38/38] x86/fred: Invoke FRED initialization code to enable FRED Xin Li

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