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Berrange" , qemu-devel , Philippe =?utf-8?Q?Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9?= , Stefan Hajnoczi , Cleber Rosa , Paolo Bonzini , Alex =?utf-8?Q?Benn=C3=A9e?= Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" Andrew Jones writes: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 09:33:43AM +0000, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 09:30:41PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote: >> > On 18/03/21 20:46, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: >> > > The QEMU Project has 50,000 minutes of GitLab CI quota. Let's enable >> > > GitLab Merge Requests so that anyone can submit a merge request and get >> > > CI coverage. >> > >> > Each merge request consumes about 2500. That won't last long. >> >> Yikes, that is 41 hours per CI run. I wonder if GitLab's CI minutes are >> on slow machines or if we'll hit the same issue with dedicated runners. >> It seems like CI optimization will be necessary... >> > > We need to reduce the amount of CI we do, not only because we can't afford > it, but because it's wasteful. I hate to think of all the kWhs spent > testing the exact same code in the exact same way, since everyone runs > everything with a simple 'git push'. I normally refrain from posting +1s, but I feel this message really needs "plussing": right you are! This kind of wastefulness has bothered me a lot. [...]