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From: "Lluís Vilanova" <vilanova@ac.upc.edu>
To: "Emilio G. Cota" <cota@braap.org>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 01/22] instrument: Add documentation
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 00:46:33 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vak1w53a.fsf@frigg.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170929175943.GA25038@flamenco> (Emilio G. Cota's message of "Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:59:43 -0400")

Emilio G Cota writes:

> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 16:16:41 +0300, Lluís Vilanova wrote:
>> Lluís Vilanova writes:
>> [...]
>> > This was working on a much older version of instrumentation for QEMU, but I can
>> > implement something that does the first use-case point above and some filtering
>> > example (second use-case point) to see what's the performance difference.
>> 
>> Ok, so here's some numbers for the discussion (booting Emilio's ARM full system
>> image that immediately shuts down):
>> 
>> * Without instrumentation
>> 
>> real	0m10,099s
>> user	0m9,876s
>> sys	0m0,128s
>> 
>> * Count number of memory access writes, by instrumenting only when they are
>> executed
>> 
>> real	0m15,896s
>> user	0m15,752s
>> sys	0m0,108s
>> 
>> * Counting same, but the filtering is done at translation time (i.e., not
>> generate an execute-time callback if it's not a write)
>> 
>> real	0m11,084s
>> user	0m10,880s
>> sys	0m0,112s
>> 
>> As Peter said, the filtering can be added into the API to take advantage of
>> this "speedup", without exposing translation vs execution time callbacks.

> I'm not sure I understand this concept of filtering. Are you saying that in
> the first case, all memory accesses are instrumented, and then in the
> "access helper" we only call the user's callback if it's a memory write?
> And in the second case, we simply just generate a "write helper" instead
> of an "access helper". Am I understanding this correctly?

In the previous case (no filtering), the user callback is always called when a
memory access is *executed*, and the user then checks if the access mode is a
write to decide whether to increment a counter.

In this case (with filtering), a user callback is called when a memory access is
*translated*, and if the access mode is a write, the user generates a call to a
second callback that is executed every time a memory access is executed (only
that it is only generated for memory writes, the ones we care about).

Is this clearer?


>> * Counting number of executed instructions, by instrumenting the beginning of
>> each one of them
>> 
>> real	0m24,583s
>> user	0m24,352s
>> sys	0m0,184s
>> 
>> * Counting same, but per-TB numbers are collected at translation-time, and we
>> only generate a per-TB execution time callback to add the corresponding number
>> of instructions for that TB
>> 
>> real	0m11,151s
>> user	0m10,952s
>> sys	0m0,092s
>> 
>> This really needs to expose translation vs execution time callbacks to take
>> advantage of this "speedup".

> Clearly instrumenting per-TB is a significant net gain. I think we should
> definitely allow instrumenters to use this option.

> FWIW my experiments so far show similar numbers for instrumenting each
> instruction (haven't done the per-tb yet). The difference is that I'm
> exposing to instrumenters a copy of the guest instructions (const void *data,
> size_t size). These copies are kept around until TB's are flushed.
> Luckily there seems to be very little overhead in keeping these around,
> apart from the memory overhead -- but in terms of performance, the
> necessary allocations do not induce significant overhead.

To keep this use-case simpler, I added the memory access API I posted in this
series, where instrumenters can read guest memory (more general than passing a
copy of the current instruction).


Cheers,
  Lluis

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-29 21:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-13  9:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 00/22] instrument: Add basic event instrumentation Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 01/22] instrument: Add documentation Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-14 14:41   ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-15 13:39     ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-18 14:41       ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-18 17:09         ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-18 17:42           ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-19 13:50             ` Emilio G. Cota
2017-09-25 18:03             ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-25 19:42               ` Emilio G. Cota
2017-09-26 16:49                 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-29 13:16               ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-29 17:59                 ` Emilio G. Cota
2017-09-29 21:46                   ` Lluís Vilanova [this message]
2017-09-30 18:09                     ` Emilio G. Cota
2017-10-04 23:28                       ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-10-05  0:50                         ` Emilio G. Cota
2017-10-06 15:07                           ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-10-06 17:59                             ` Emilio G. Cota
2017-10-15 16:30                               ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-10-15 16:47                                 ` Peter Maydell
2017-10-21 14:05                                   ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-10-21 16:56                                     ` Peter Maydell
2017-10-21 17:12                                       ` Alex Bennée
2017-09-19 13:09           ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-18 14:33   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-18 14:40   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 02/22] instrument: Add configure-time flag Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 10:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 03/22] instrument: Add generic library loader Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-18 14:34   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 04/22] instrument: [linux-user] Add command line " Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 10:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 05/22] instrument: [bsd-user] " Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 10:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 06/22] instrument: [softmmu] " Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 10:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 07/22] instrument: [qapi] Add " Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 10:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 08/22] instrument: [hmp] " Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 10:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 09/22] instrument: Add basic control interface Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 10:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 10/22] instrument: Add support for tracing events Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 10:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 11/22] instrument: Track vCPUs Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 10:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 12/22] instrument: Add event 'guest_cpu_enter' Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 10:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 13/22] instrument: Support synchronous modification of vCPU state Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 10:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 14/22] exec: Add function to synchronously flush TB on a stopped vCPU Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 10:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 15/22] instrument: Add event 'guest_cpu_exit' Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 10:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 16/22] instrument: Add event 'guest_cpu_reset' Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 11:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 17/22] trace: Introduce a proper structure to describe memory accesses Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 11:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 18/22] instrument: Add event 'guest_mem_before_trans' Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 11:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 19/22] instrument: Add event 'guest_mem_before_exec' Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 20/22] instrument: Add event 'guest_user_syscall' Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 11:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 21/22] instrument: Add event 'guest_user_syscall_ret' Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 11:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 22/22] instrument: Add API to manipulate guest memory Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-13 11:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 00/22] instrument: Add basic event instrumentation no-reply
2017-09-22 22:48 ` Emilio G. Cota
2017-09-25 18:07   ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-09-25 18:55     ` Emilio G. Cota
2017-09-26  8:17       ` Lluís Vilanova

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