From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
"KONRAD Frédéric" <fred.konrad@greensocs.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
e.voevodin@samsung.com, mark.burton@greensocs.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, stefanha@redhat.com,
cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com, afaerber@suse.de
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v6 0/6] Virtio refactoring.
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:12:23 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vcb8g3bs.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121218132152.GB26110@redhat.com>
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:30:20PM +0100, KONRAD Frédéric wrote:
>> On 18/12/2012 12:01, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> >On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:33:37AM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote:
>> >>On 17 December 2012 15:45, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >>>Is the point to allow virtio-mmio? Why can't virtio-mmio be just
>> >>>another bus, like a pci bus, and another binding, like the virtio-pci
>> >>>binding?
>> >>(a) the current code is really not very nice because it's not
>> >>actually a proper set of QOM/qdev devices
>> >>(b) unlike PCI, you can't create sysbus devices on the
>> >>command line, because they don't correspond to a user
>> >>pluggable bit of hardware. We don't want users to have to know
>> >>an address and IRQ number for each virtio-mmio device (especially
>> >>since these are board specific); instead the board can create
>> >>and wire up transport devices wherever is suitable, and the
>> >>user just creates the backend (which is plugged into the virtio bus).
>> >>
>> >>-- PMM
>> >This is what I am saying: create your own bus and put
>> >your devices there. Allocate resources when you init
>> >a device.
>> >
>> >Instead you seem to want to expose a virtio device as two devices to
>> >user - if true this is not reasonable.
>> >
>> The modifications will be transparent to the user, as we will keep
>> virtio-x-pci devices.
>
> So there are three ways to add virtio pci devices now.
> Legacy -device virtio-net-pci, legacy legacy -net nic.model=virtio
> and the new one with two devices.
> If yes it's not transparent, it's user visible.
> Or did I misunderstand?
>
> Look we can have a virtio network device on a PCI bus.
> A very similar device can be created on XXX bus, and
> we can and do share a lot of code.
> This makes it two devices? Why not 4?
> One for TX one for RX one for control one for PCI.
> I hope I'm not giving anyone ideas ...
Devices != things users need to worry about.
The documented way to create network devices is completely different
than any possible syntax you can conjure up with -device.
Really, -device is not something users should have to deal with--ever.
It's a low level API, not a UI.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
> --
> MST
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Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-12-07 13:32 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v6 0/6] Virtio refactoring fred.konrad
2012-12-07 13:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v6 1/6] qdev : add a maximum device allowed field for the bus fred.konrad
2012-12-07 13:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v6 2/6] virtio-bus : Introduce virtio-bus fred.konrad
2012-12-07 13:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v6 3/6] virtio-pci-bus : Introduce virtio-pci-bus fred.konrad
2012-12-07 13:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v6 4/6] virtio-pci : Refactor virtio-pci device fred.konrad
2012-12-07 13:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v6 5/6] virtio-device : Refactor virtio-device fred.konrad
2012-12-07 13:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v6 6/6] virtio-blk : Add the virtio-blk device fred.konrad
2012-12-07 14:53 ` Peter Maydell
2012-12-17 15:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v6 0/6] Virtio refactoring Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-17 17:13 ` KONRAD Frédéric
2012-12-17 20:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-18 10:33 ` Peter Maydell
2012-12-18 11:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-18 11:26 ` Peter Maydell
2012-12-18 11:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-18 12:06 ` Peter Maydell
2012-12-18 13:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-18 14:00 ` Peter Maydell
2012-12-18 14:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-18 14:56 ` Peter Maydell
2012-12-18 14:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-18 15:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-18 15:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-18 14:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-18 11:30 ` KONRAD Frédéric
2012-12-18 13:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-07 20:12 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2013-01-07 20:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-07 21:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-07 21:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-07 21:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-07 22:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-07 22:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-08 6:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-07 22:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-07 19:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-07 20:02 ` Peter Maydell
2013-01-07 20:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-07 21:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-07 20:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-08 9:56 ` KONRAD Frédéric
2013-01-08 14:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-08 14:27 ` KONRAD Frédéric
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