From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1HRRP1-0001RJ-Fs for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:12:19 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HRROz-0001Qi-M0 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:12:17 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HRROx-0001PI-8g for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:12:16 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRROw-0001P8-Ur for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:12:15 -0500 Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.29]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HRRO3-00023D-QK for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:11:20 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (249-174.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net [145.99.174.249]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2EBBIOU006621 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:11:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mgerards@xs4all.nl) From: Marco Gerards To: The development of GRUB 2 References: <200703051817.19982.okuji@enbug.org> <87zm6q82l0.wl@dekkers.cx> <87ird893tp.wl@dekkers.cx> <200703121845.33472.okuji@enbug.org> <87veh571ya.wl@dekkers.cx> <7e62748d0703131852s595befe2u97bed118d5786dc8@mail.gmail.com> Mail-Copies-To: mgerards@xs4all.nl Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:14:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: <7e62748d0703131852s595befe2u97bed118d5786dc8@mail.gmail.com> (Brandon Sho's message of "Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:52:52 +0900") Message-ID: <87veh46prl.fsf@xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code 2007 X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:12:18 -0000 "Brandon Sho" writes: > I agree wholeheartily with Jeroen's last paragraph below. > > Some might even add that this should have been done sooner That means you will send in patches? . > As an observer I have not noticed any remarkable gain or needed > functionality added for quite some time. Its been years and you > still don't have a production version.. And you should at least > attempt for the legacy features as a proof of stability and then later > you can add features as it matures. That is what we have been doing for quite a while. Our main focus was working towards a release and if you look carefully you will see there was quite some progress over these years, although GRUB is the kind of project in which you do not immediately notice features, like in a project with a fancy GUI. I mean: the user will not see when for example a filesystem is supported, but the user will see when it is not supported. I hope you understand all of us are volunteers. Sometimes we do not have time to work on GRUB, in that case simply nothing happens. Sometimes we think it is fun to add a feature, even if it isn't required for the release. But you can't blame anyone for that, if we don't accept patches like these, people will start working on other fun projects. I think most of us know perfectly well what to do in order to get GRUB 2 stable and to replace GRUB Legacy and we are all working on this as a top priority. -- Marco