From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Et6qa-0007aG-T3 for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 12:18:20 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Et6qY-0007YD-Ke for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 12:18:18 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Et6qW-0007Tz-4h for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 12:18:17 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Et6qV-0007Tm-Vo for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 12:18:16 -0500 Received: from [194.109.24.34] (helo=smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Et6rP-0000zT-Ug for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 12:19:12 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (mgerards.xs4all.nl [82.92.27.129]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k01HGdPH031214 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 18:16:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mgerards@xs4all.nl) Mail-Copies-To: mgerards@xs4all.nl To: The development of GRUB 2 References: <43B5E16A.8090505@nic.fi> <877j9lb4zg.fsf@xs4all.nl> <43B7E601.8020209@nic.fi> From: Marco Gerards Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 18:16:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: <43B7E601.8020209@nic.fi> (Vesa =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E4=E4skel=E4?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?inen's?= message of "Sun, 01 Jan 2006 16:24:01 +0200") Message-ID: <87vex3lvgo.fsf@xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: Update on video subsystem draft X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 17:18:19 -0000 Vesa J=E4=E4skel=E4inen writes: >> For a GNU project VMWare is absolutely not an option. You are of >> course free to do whatever you like, but it is not something that can >> be documented. > > Well I don't even run a Linux natively on this system :). I use VMware a > lot for different things on this system, so for me it is natural to also > develop grub2 on this configuration. > > But there are open source systems like bochs and others that might > support also virtual serial ports/nic's or so that can also be used on > VMware. Serial debugging could be a nice feature. Perhaps bochs or qemu would work. > May I ask why that cannot be documented? Of course I can provide this > information on my own website if required. Because for a GNU project references in official documentation to non-free software is not allowed. Of course you are free to put on your website whatever you want to put there :-). But I seriously doubt that vmware has the debugging features bochs has. -- Marco