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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	 Ritesh Harjani <ritesh.list@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	 Ying Huang <huang.ying.caritas@gmail.com>,
	 Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	 Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] memory tiering: Do not allow promotion if NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is disabled
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2026 11:27:13 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wlyqt52m.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260323094849.3903-1-donettom@linux.ibm.com> (Donet Tom's message of "Mon, 23 Mar 2026 04:48:49 -0500")

Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com> writes:

> In the current implementation, if NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is
> disabled and the pages are on the lower tier, the pages may still be
> promoted.
>
> This happens because task_numa_work() updates the last_cpupid field to
> record the last access time only when NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is
> enabled and the folio is on the lower tier. If
> NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is disabled, the last_cpupid field
> can retains a valid last CPU id.
>
> In should_numa_migrate_memory(), the decision checks whether
> NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is disabled, the folio is on the lower
> tier, and last_cpupid is invalid. However, the last_cpupid can be
> valid when NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is disabled, the condition
> evaluates to false and migration is allowed.
>
> This patch prevents promotion when NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is
> disabled and the folio is on the lower tier.
>
> Behavior before this change:
> ============================
>   - If NUMA_BALANCING_NORMAL is enabled, migration occurs between
>     nodes within the same memory tier, and promotion from lower
>     tier to higher tier may also happen.
>
>   - If NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is enabled, promotion from
>     lower tier to higher tier nodes is allowed.
>
> Behavior after this change:
> ===========================
>   - If NUMA_BALANCING_NORMAL is enabled, migration will occur only
>     between nodes within the same memory tier.
>
>   - If NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is enabled, promotion from lower
>     tier to higher tier nodes will be allowed.
>
>   - If both NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING and NUMA_BALANCING_NORMAL are
>     enabled, both migration (same tier) and promotion (cross tier) are
>     allowed.
>
> Fixes: 33024536bafd ("memory tiering: hot page selection with hint page fault latency")
> Signed-off-by: Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>
> ---
> v1 -> v2
> ========
> 1. Dropped changes in task_numa_fault() since the original changes
>    already handle runtime disabling of NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING.
>
> v1 -> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260320092251.1290207-1-donettom@linux.ibm.com/
> ---
>  kernel/sched/fair.c | 6 +++++-
>  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index bf948db905ed..4b43809a3fb1 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -2024,8 +2024,12 @@ bool should_numa_migrate_memory(struct task_struct *p, struct folio *folio,
>  	this_cpupid = cpu_pid_to_cpupid(dst_cpu, current->pid);
>  	last_cpupid = folio_xchg_last_cpupid(folio, this_cpupid);
>  
> +	/*
> +	 * Do not allow promotion if NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is disabled
> +	 * and the pages are on the lower tier.
> +	 */
>  	if (!(sysctl_numa_balancing_mode & NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING) &&
> -	    !node_is_toptier(src_nid) && !cpupid_valid(last_cpupid))
> +	    !node_is_toptier(src_nid))
>  		return false;
>  
>  	/*

No.  Even if NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is disabled, we should still
allow migrate pages from lower tier to higher tier via
NUMA_BALANCING_NORMAL.  If we have precious DDR, why waste it?  This
follows the semantics of NUMA_BALANCING_NORMAL before introducing
NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING.

---
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-04-02  3:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-23  9:48 [PATCH v2] memory tiering: Do not allow promotion if NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is disabled Donet Tom
2026-04-02  0:22 ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-02  3:31   ` Huang, Ying
2026-04-02  3:27 ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2026-04-02  4:59   ` Donet Tom
2026-04-02  6:24     ` Huang, Ying
2026-04-08 13:20       ` Donet Tom
2026-04-09  1:28         ` Huang, Ying
2026-04-09  3:42           ` Ritesh Harjani
2026-04-09  6:39             ` Huang, Ying
2026-04-09 14:10             ` Gregory Price
2026-04-10  1:07               ` Ritesh Harjani

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