From: Otavio Salvador <otavio@debian.org>
To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: Bugtracker Status
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:55:17 -0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wscmn8ne.fsf@neumann.lab.ossystems.com.br> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200901230131.09511.mickey@vanille-media.de> (Michael Lauer's message of "Fri\, 23 Jan 2009 01\:31\:09 +0100")
"Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" <mickey@vanille-media.de> writes:
> Hi guys,
>
> we have 1141 open bugs in the bugtracker, a couple of hundreds from ancient
> autobuilder builds, some more hundreds application specific bugs, and then
> some actual ones.
>
> I think there are two ways to deal with the mess:
>
> 1.) Officially close the bugtracker down.
>
> 2.) Attack the situation.
>
> I'm fine with either way, though if we'd go for 2.), I'd propose:
>
> 2.1.) Removing all autobuilder bugs completely (how can we script that?) and
> stop autobuilder automatically adding bugs. It was a great idea, but it
> didn't work out. We do not have enough manpower and it just messes up the
> bugtracker.
> 2.2.) Remove all software specific bugs that have an upstream and are not
> distribution-relevant, such as GPE, Opie, Kernel, etc.
> 2.3.) Reinstate the monthly bug squashing weekends.
>
> Opinions?
I propose to change the workflow a bit (and reuse few points you've proposed):
1. stop using bugtracker to handle patches
2. use mailing list to handle patches (comments bellow)
3. drop autobuilder bug reporting (comments bellow)
Besides, I have no objection about your points 2.2 and 2.3 but I'm too
new in the OE environment to comment about them so let me comment
about my points:
1 and 2:
We're trying to get more people to review the changes to be done in
OE dev tree and bugzilla UI is horrible and difficult to use (at
least for me). Most people ends up redoing someone else patch since
we don't watch carefully the bugtrack.
I propose we move to mailing list reviewing process mostly like Linux
kernel does. We can use PatchWork (http://ozlabs.org/~jk/projects/patchwork/)
tool to make our life easier. I see some pros for that:
. people will get more review into the patches
. people will be aware of ongoing work and what is being prepared to
be merged
. less forgotten patches
. less duplicated work
I also see a single con for that:
. more mailing list traffic
3:
Instead of reporting bugs, we could mail mailing list with the
failure and link a log for someone to take a look. It makes us to
worry more about the change since if we break something _everyone_
we'll know it :-)
My 2c :P
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-23 1:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-23 0:31 Bugtracker Status Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
2009-01-23 0:55 ` Otavio Salvador [this message]
2009-01-23 1:39 ` Philip Balister
2009-01-23 1:49 ` Otavio Salvador
2009-01-23 1:51 ` Otavio Salvador
2009-01-23 3:16 ` Khem Raj
2009-01-23 7:55 ` Koen Kooi
2009-01-23 13:36 ` Florian Boor
2009-01-23 13:59 ` Marcin Juszkiewicz
2009-01-23 8:27 ` Vitus Jensen
2009-01-23 10:30 ` Valentin Longchamp
2009-01-23 11:06 ` Mailinglists, was: " Koen Kooi
2009-01-23 12:00 ` Petr Stetiar
2009-01-23 15:36 ` Chris Larson
2009-02-05 14:06 ` Koen Kooi
2009-02-05 21:29 ` Roman I Khimov
2009-02-11 12:45 ` Koen Kooi
2009-02-11 12:51 ` Koen Kooi
2009-02-11 13:20 ` Philip Balister
2009-02-11 17:19 ` Otavio Salvador
2009-02-11 18:15 ` Bernhard Guillon
2009-02-13 20:56 ` Rodrigo Vivi
2009-02-11 13:40 ` Sledz, Steffen
2009-02-24 9:20 ` Martyn Welch
2009-02-24 16:11 ` Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
2009-02-24 16:51 ` Koen Kooi
2009-02-24 18:09 ` Andrea Adami
2009-01-23 13:20 ` Florian Boor
2009-02-17 16:55 ` Rolf Leggewie
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