From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1E28jC-000854-2O for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2005 10:35:46 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E28j7-00081d-Gw for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2005 10:35:42 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E28iy-0007xc-C3 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2005 10:35:34 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E28ix-0007hu-0Y for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2005 10:35:31 -0400 Received: from [145.74.66.11] (helo=mail-cn.han.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1E28bq-0003CF-QP for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2005 10:28:11 -0400 Received: from vscan-cn.han.nl (venus.han.nl [145.74.65.6]) by mail-cn.han.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C078A8B37 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 16:14:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-cn.han.nl ([145.74.66.11]) by vscan-cn.han.nl (venus.han.nl [145.74.65.6]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09534-04 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 15:24:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail1.han.nl (mail1.han.nl [145.74.103.11]) by mail-cn.han.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688B6850B for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 16:13:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (mgerards.xs4all.nl [82.92.27.129]) by mail1.han.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB95C046 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 16:13:58 +0200 (CEST) Mail-Copies-To: metgerards@student.han.nl To: The development of GRUB 2 References: <42F72A1A.3090605@gmail.com> <87fytkfy6l.fsf@student.han.nl> <42F74FAF.8020005@gmail.com> From: Marco Gerards Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 16:14:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: <42F74FAF.8020005@gmail.com> (Vladimir Serbinenko's message of "Mon, 08 Aug 2005 14:27:27 +0200") Message-ID: <87wtmwbjo4.fsf@student.han.nl> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new (2.2.0) at vscan-cn.han.nl Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Journal playback X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 14:35:43 -0000 Vladimir Serbinenko writes: > It'll give for sure considerable amount of work but the question if > it'll give real advantages? Journaling was made to keep *FS* from > the corruption. *Not* the data. So even if data needed by GRUB is > corrupted (that is not very probable because kernels, initrds and > GRUB data) there is a high probability that journaling will simply > remove this corrupted data. On the other hand it can perhaps create > strange bugs and make maintnaining harde Right, I know what journaling is used for. But this makes it possible to boot from a corrupted filesystem that can not be used without journaling support. About how hard it is, we will see about it when we will work on it. It is not an important feature; at least not to me. But it is something we have to keep in mind because, unlike lilo, GRUB does depend on the consistency of the metadata. -- Marco