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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: "Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@gmail.com>,
	"Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@redhat.com>,
	airlied@redhat.com, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	will@kernel.org, "Waiman Long" <longman@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	wedsonaf@gmail.com, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@samsung.com>,
	aliceryhl@google.com, "Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: [POC 1/6] irq & spin_lock: Add counted interrupt disabling/enabling
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:17:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zfmt6hk2.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZxnVmCqk2PzsOj2h@Boquns-Mac-mini.local>

On Wed, Oct 23 2024 at 22:05, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 09:34:27PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> local_interrupt_enable()
>> {
>>         if ((preempt_count() & LOCALIRQ_MASK) == LOCALIRQ_OFFSET) {
>>         	local_irq_restore(this_cpu_read(...flags);
>>                 preempt_count_sub_test_resched(LOCALIRQ_OFFSET);
>>         } else {
>>                 // Does not need a resched test because it's not going
>>                 // to 0
>>                 preempt_count_sub(LOCALIRQ_OFFSET);
>>         }
>> }
>> 
>
> Yes, this looks nice, one tiny problem is that it requires
> PREEMPT_COUNT=y ;-) Maybe we can do: if PREEMPT_COUNT=y, we use preempt
> count, otherwise use a percpu?
>
> Hmm... but this will essentially be: we have a irq_disable_count() which
> is always built-in, and we also uses it as preempt count if
> PREEMPT_COUNT=y. This doesn't look too bad to me.

The preempt counter is always there even when PREEMPT_COUNT=n. It's
required for tracking hard/soft interrupt and NMI context.

The only difference is that preempt_disable()/enable() are NOOPs. So in
that case preempt_count_sub_test_resched() becomes a plain preempt_count_sub().

>> and then the lock thing becomes
>> 
>> spin_lock_irq_disable()
>> {
>>         local_interrupt_disable();
>>         lock();
>> }
>> 
>> spin_unlock_irq_enable()
>> {
>>         unlock();
>>         local_interrupt_enable();
>> }
>> 
>> instead having to do:
>> 
>> spin_unlock_irq_enable()
>> {
>>         unlock();
>>         local_interrupt_enable();
>>         preempt_enable();
>> }
>> 
>> Which needs two distinct checks, one for the interrupt and one for the
>
> No? Because now since we fold the interrupt disable count into preempt
> count, so we don't need to care about preempt count any more if we we
> local_interrupt_{disable,enable}(). For example, in the above
> local_interrupt_enable(), interrupts are checked at local_irq_restore()
> and preemption is checked at preempt_count_sub_test_resched(). Right?

Correct. That's what I pointed out. By folding it into preempt count
this becomes one operation, while in your POC it's two distinct checks
and operations.

Thanks,

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-24  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-16 21:28 [PATCH v6 0/3] rust: Add irq abstraction, SpinLockIrq Lyude Paul
2024-09-16 21:28 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] rust: Introduce irq module Lyude Paul
2024-09-29 20:36   ` Trevor Gross
2024-09-29 23:45   ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-02 20:20   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-04  8:58     ` Benno Lossin
2024-10-04 17:18       ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-17 18:51       ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-04 17:02     ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-10 21:00   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-16 21:28 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] rust: sync: Introduce lock::Backend::Context Lyude Paul
2024-09-29 20:40   ` Trevor Gross
2024-09-29 23:52   ` Boqun Feng
2024-09-16 21:28 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] rust: sync: Add SpinLockIrq Lyude Paul
2024-09-29 20:50   ` Trevor Gross
2024-09-29 23:59   ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-02 20:53   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-03 12:51     ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-04 18:48     ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-05 18:19       ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-07 12:42         ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-07 18:13           ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-15 12:57           ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-15 20:17             ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-15 20:21               ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-16 20:57                 ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-17 13:34                   ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-07 12:01       ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-07 18:30         ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-08 15:21           ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-12  8:01             ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-10 16:39 ` [PATCH v6 0/3] rust: Add irq abstraction, SpinLockIrq Daniel Almeida
2024-10-12  5:29 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-13 19:06   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-13 21:43     ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-16 21:00       ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-16 21:31         ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-17 20:49           ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-17 22:27             ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-18  5:51           ` [POC 0/6] Allow SpinLockIrq to use a normal Guard interface Boqun Feng
2024-10-18  5:51             ` [POC 1/6] irq & spin_lock: Add counted interrupt disabling/enabling Boqun Feng
2024-10-21  7:04               ` kernel test robot
2024-10-21  7:35               ` kernel test robot
2024-10-21 20:44               ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-24 16:18                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-23 19:34               ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-23 19:51                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-23 20:38                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-24 10:05                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-24 17:22                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-24 21:57                         ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-25 15:04                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-25 18:28                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-24 19:12                       ` Lyude Paul
2025-07-24 20:36                   ` w/r/t "irq & spin_lock: Add counted interrupt disabling/enabling": holes in pcpu_hot? Lyude Paul
2025-07-24 21:59                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-24  5:05                 ` [POC 1/6] irq & spin_lock: Add counted interrupt disabling/enabling Boqun Feng
2024-10-24  8:17                   ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2024-10-24 16:20                     ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-18  5:51             ` [POC 2/6] rust: Introduce interrupt module Boqun Feng
2024-10-31 20:45               ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-31 20:47                 ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-18  5:51             ` [POC 3/6] rust: helper: Add spin_{un,}lock_irq_{enable,disable}() helpers Boqun Feng
2024-10-18  5:51             ` [POC 4/6] rust: sync: Add SpinLockIrq Boqun Feng
2024-10-18 19:23               ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-18 20:22                 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-18  5:51             ` [POC 5/6] rust: sync: Introduce lock::Backend::Context Boqun Feng
2024-10-31 20:54               ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-18  5:51             ` [POC 6/6] rust: sync: lock: Add `Backend::BackendInContext` Boqun Feng
2024-10-18 10:22             ` [POC 0/6] Allow SpinLockIrq to use a normal Guard interface Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-18 12:42               ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-18 11:16             ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-18 16:05               ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-31 20:56             ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-17 20:42         ` [PATCH v6 0/3] rust: Add irq abstraction, SpinLockIrq Lyude Paul

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