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From: Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Sebastian Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Giovanni Gherdovich <ggherdovich@suse.cz>,
	Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>,
	"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
	Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@intel.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 18/20] timers: Implement the hierarchical pull model
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2024 17:45:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zfwm93e5.fsf@somnus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZbkV9wVxFhQxujb3@localhost.localdomain>

Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org> writes:

> Le Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 04:58:55PM +0100, Anna-Maria Behnsen a écrit :
>> Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org> writes:
>> >> +
>> >> +			if (tmigr_check_lonely(topgroup))
>> >> +				return READ_ONCE(topgroup->next_expiry);
>> 
>> When I hand in tevt->global as a parameter, I'll need to compare the
>> first expiry of the toplevel group and the tevt->global value and return
>> the earlier expiry. Only a single child is active in top level, so it
>> might be that this CPU is the last active CPU in hierarchy.
>> 
>> I didn't check all the way to the top whether all groups are
>> 'lonely'. So when the top level group has only a single active child, it
>> is also possible that the child of the top level group has two active
>> children... Then a return of KTIME_MAX would be also a more precise
>> forecast.
>> 
>> This quick check is there to keep the overhead minimal when checking
>> whether it might be possible to go idle. So I don't know, if we should
>> add this additional check per level (which is pretty simple when using
>> group->parent for walking the hierarchy). What do you think?
>
> Not sure. Maybe if the tree never exceeds 3 levels (does it?) it's ok to
> do the walk?

Levels depend on the number of CPUs and NUMA nodes

Take 4096 CPUs, all evenly distributed across 4 NUMA nodes, then you
will end up with 6 levels.

Thanks,

	Anna-Maria


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-30 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-15 14:37 [PATCH v10 00/20] timers: Move from a push remote at enqueue to a pull at expiry model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 01/20] timers: Restructure get_next_timer_interrupt() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 15:01   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 02/20] timers: Split out get next timer interrupt Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 15:06   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 03/20] timers: Move marking timer bases idle into tick_nohz_stop_tick() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 16:02   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-22 11:45     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-22 21:49       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-19  8:52   ` [PATCH v10a] " Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-19 22:37     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 10:48       ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 11:41         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 12:02           ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 12:34             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 14:00               ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 15:10                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 15:23                   ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 15:25                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 04/20] timers: Optimization for timer_base_try_to_set_idle() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 16:45   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-22 11:48     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-22 22:22   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 05/20] timers: Introduce add_timer() variants which modify timer flags Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 17:01   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-22 11:50     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 06/20] workqueue: Use global variant for add_timer() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 07/20] timers: add_timer_on(): Make sure TIMER_PINNED flag is set Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 08/20] timers: Ease code in run_local_timers() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 09/20] timers: Split next timer interrupt logic Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-23 14:28   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 10/20] timers: Keep the pinned timers separate from the others Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 11/20] timers: Retrieve next expiry of pinned/non-pinned timers separately Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 12/20] timers: Split out "get next timer interrupt" functionality Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 13/20] timers: Add get next timer interrupt functionality for remote CPUs Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-19 16:04   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-19 16:57     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 14/20] timers: Restructure internal locking Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 13:56   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 15/20] timers: Check if timers base is handled already Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 14:22   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 16/20] tick/sched: Split out jiffies update helper function Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 14:42   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 17/20] timers: Introduce function to check timer base is_idle flag Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 14:52   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 18/20] timers: Implement the hierarchical pull model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-25 14:30   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-28 15:58     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-30 15:29       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 16:45         ` Anna-Maria Behnsen [this message]
2024-01-26 12:53   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-27 22:54   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-29 10:50     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-29 22:21       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 13:32         ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-29 13:50     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-01-29  1:04   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 17:56     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-30 21:13       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-31 11:19         ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-30 15:37   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 14:59     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 15:05   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 16:15     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 17:43       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 20:52         ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-05 13:29           ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-05 20:30             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-06 10:06               ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-06 10:29                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 16:33   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-05 15:59     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-05 20:28       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-04 22:02   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-06 11:03     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-06 11:11       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-04 22:32   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-06 11:36     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-06 13:21       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-06 14:13         ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-06 14:21           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 19/20] timer_migration: Add tracepoints Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 16:47   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 20/20] timers: Always queue timers on the local CPU Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 17:36   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 20:58     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-02 11:57       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 00/20] timers: Move from a push remote at enqueue to a pull at expiry model Christian Loehle
2024-02-01 15:03   ` Anna-Maria Behnsen

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