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From: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>
To: Kunwu Chan <kunwu.chan@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, lkmm@lists.linux.dev,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] Documentation/litmus-tests: Add SRCU fastpath anchor-before-scan test
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2026 18:48:18 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <892d82bf-aff4-4b0c-9585-8438280b45b1@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260912024225.2872265-2-kunwu.chan@gmail.com>

Hi,

This is more of a knee-jerk reaction, but

On Sat, 12 Sep 2026 10:42:24 +0800, Kunwu Chan wrote:
> synchronize_srcu_atomic() may end its grace period immediately when
> its scan of the per-CPU lock counters finds no readers.  Correctness
> requires the grace-period anchor written by srcu_gp_start() to precede
> the smp_mb() ordering the lock scan.  This ordering ensures that any
> reader whose lock increment is missed by the scan cannot have
> incremented its lock counter before the grace-period anchor, and
> therefore cannot be a pre-existing reader of this grace period.
> 
> This litmus test models the key ordering between the grace-period
> anchor and the lock counter scan, where "seq" models the
> grace-period anchor in ->srcu_gp_seq and "ctr" models the per-CPU
> ->srcu_ctrs[].srcu_locks counter.  P0 writes the anchor before the
> smp_mb() and the lock scan.  P1 models the reader-side counter
> increment, with the smp_mb() of __srcu_read_lock() following the
> increment.  P2 models an observer that sees the reader's increment
> before seeing the anchor.
> 
> The outcome is forbidden by LKMM, and herd7 reports "Never".  See
> SRCU-fastpath-scan-before-anchor.litmus for the reversed ordering,
> which permits this outcome.
> 
> Tested with herd7 7.58 using linux-kernel.cfg.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Kunwu Chan <kunwu.chan@gmail.com>
> ---
>  .../SRCU-fastpath-anchor-before-scan.litmus   | 57 +++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 57 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/litmus-tests/srcu/SRCU-fastpath-anchor-before-scan.litmus
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/litmus-tests/srcu/SRCU-fastpath-anchor-before-scan.litmus b/Documentation/litmus-tests/srcu/SRCU-fastpath-anchor-before-scan.litmus
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..efa9c0c4e047
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/litmus-tests/srcu/SRCU-fastpath-anchor-before-scan.litmus
> @@ -0,0 +1,57 @@
> +C SRCU-fastpath-anchor-before-scan
> +
> +(*
> + * Result: Never
> + *
> + * The synchronize_srcu_atomic() fastpath may end its grace period
> + * immediately when its scan of the per-CPU lock counters finds no
> + * readers.  Correctness requires the grace-period anchor written by
> + * srcu_gp_start() to precede the smp_mb() ordering the lock scan.
> + * This ordering ensures that any reader whose lock increment is missed
> + * by the scan cannot have incremented its lock counter before the
> + * grace-period anchor, and therefore cannot be a pre-existing reader
> + * of this grace period.
> + *
> + * This litmus test models the key ordering between the grace-period
> + * anchor and the lock counter scan, where "seq" models the
> + * grace-period anchor in ->srcu_gp_seq and "ctr" models the per-CPU
> + * ->srcu_ctrs[].srcu_locks counter.  P0 writes the anchor before the
> + * smp_mb() and the lock scan.  P1 models the reader-side counter
> + * increment, with the smp_mb() of __srcu_read_lock() following the
> + * increment.  P2 models an observer that sees the reader's increment
> + * before seeing the anchor.
> + *
> + * The outcome is forbidden by LKMM, and herd7 reports "Never".  See
> + * SRCU-fastpath-scan-before-anchor.litmus for the reversed ordering,
> + * which permits this outcome.
> + *)
> +
> +{}
> +
> +P0(int *seq, int *ctr)
> +{
> +	int r2;
> +
> +	WRITE_ONCE(*seq, 1);
> +	smp_mb();
> +	r2 = READ_ONCE(*ctr);
> +}
> +
> +P1(int *ctr)
> +{
> +	WRITE_ONCE(*ctr, 1);
> +	smp_mb();
> +}

As P1() has a single memory access, this smp_mb() can't have any
effect on the outcome.

The one you see in "__srcu_read_lock() following the increment" is
there for other ordering requirements, I guess.

Ditto smp_mb() in P1() of 2/2.

Thanks, Akira

> +
> +P2(int *seq, int *ctr)
> +{
> +	int r3;
> +	int r4;
> +
> +	r3 = READ_ONCE(*ctr);
> +	smp_mb();
> +	r4 = READ_ONCE(*seq);
> +}
> +
> +filter (0:r2 = 0)
> +exists (2:r3 = 1 /\ 2:r4 = 0)
> -- 
> 2.43.0

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-13  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-12  2:42 [PATCH v2 0/2] Documentation/litmus-tests: Add SRCU fastpath litmus tests Kunwu Chan
2026-09-12  2:42 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] Documentation/litmus-tests: Add SRCU fastpath anchor-before-scan test Kunwu Chan
2026-09-13  9:48   ` Akira Yokosawa [this message]
2026-09-12  2:42 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] Documentation/litmus-tests: Add SRCU fastpath scan-before-anchor test Kunwu Chan

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