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From: kaih@khms.westfalen.de (Kai Henningsen)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] New Driver Model for 2.5
Date: 19 Oct 2001 19:09:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8B9P9PwHw-B@khms.westfalen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011018220604.23253@smtp.wanadoo.fr>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0110180826240.16868-100000@marty.infinity.powertie.org> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0110180826240.16868-100000@marty.infinity.powertie.org> <20011018220604.23253@smtp.wanadoo.fr>

benh@kernel.crashing.org (Benjamin Herrenschmidt)  wrote on 19.10.01 in <20011018220604.23253@smtp.wanadoo.fr>:

> collisions between uuid's of different devices types. In the case of
> ethernet hardware, the MAC address seems to be the best type of uuid
> available, so it would be something like "ethaddr,xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx",
> FireWire has a generic uuid allocation scheme as well, it could be
> "ieee1394,xxxxxx...", etc...

I have no idea what Firewire uses, but there are two generic kinds of  
numbers that the IEEE allocates (actually, they're two different views on  
a single id space).

Those are the MAC-48 address used by ethernet, fddi, and various other  
protocols, and the EUI-64 used by more modern designs (and referenced by  
IPv6; in fact, there's an algorithm that lets you create an EUI-64 from a  
MAC-48 via bit stuffing).

Both of these depend on a 24 bit id called company_id or OUI which you can  
buy from the IEEE for US$1.250,00 (for 16 million MAC-48's or 1 trillion  
EUI-64's).

The list of public OUIs is at <URL:http://standards.ieee.org/regauth/oui/ 
oui.txt> (there are "unlisted numbers" in that namespace, too).

Ah, I see IEEE 1394 *does* use OUIs. Not at all surprising, of course.

So, the namespace should be used, not the appliation. In fact, given the  
standard conversion from MAC-48 to EUI-64, we should probably just use one  
namespace for both: my current ethernet card 00:50:FC:0C:63:69 would thus  
be named "eui-64,00:50:fc:ff:ff:0c:63:69".

More than you ever wanted to know about this stuff: <URL:http:// 
standards.ieee.org/regauth/oui/>.

Of course, there *are* other namespaces.

MfG Kai

  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-19 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-17 23:52 [RFC] New Driver Model for 2.5 Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18  6:23 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-18 12:13   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 16:19     ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 17:38       ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-18 22:06       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-19 17:09         ` Kai Henningsen [this message]
2001-10-18 22:10       ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-19 18:26         ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-19 19:02           ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-19 19:21             ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-19 20:07               ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-19 20:24                 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-19 22:25                   ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-20 13:47                   ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-20  1:41               ` john slee
2001-10-20 13:52               ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-22 11:02                 ` Padraig Brady
2001-10-27 11:01                   ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-19  7:57     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-19  8:09       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-19  8:31         ` Keith Owens
2001-10-19  8:43           ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-19 18:50       ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-19 15:21     ` Taral
2001-10-19 23:30     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-19 23:54       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 15:17   ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 16:08 ` Taral
2001-10-18 16:52   ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-18 17:38     ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 17:41       ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 18:28       ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-18 19:49         ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 20:40           ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-18 21:32           ` John Alvord
2001-10-18 22:23             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 22:26             ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-18 22:18           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 23:30             ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 23:44               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 23:52                 ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]         ` <3BCF3941.D4B79FE1@mandrakesoft.com>
2001-10-19 17:12           ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-18 17:05 ` Jonathan Corbet
2001-10-18 17:33   ` Patrick Mochel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-19 17:01 Kevin Easton
2001-10-19 18:40 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-19 21:43 Grover, Andrew
2001-10-19 23:33 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-20  0:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-20  9:28   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-21 17:09     ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-23  0:19       ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-23  0:31         ` Alan Cox
2001-10-23  0:29           ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-23  7:53             ` Alan Cox
2001-10-23 15:10               ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-23 15:49                 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-23 20:22                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-23 20:54                   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24  0:26                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24  9:57                       ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 10:34                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 10:54                           ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 13:04                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 13:25                               ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 16:19                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 16:36                                   ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-10-24 16:45                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 22:48                                   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 16:15                               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 16:46                                 ` Xavier Bestel
2001-10-24 16:54                                   ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-24 16:55                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 22:45                                     ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 17:33                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 22:41                                   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 22:41                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25  7:58                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 12:22                                       ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 14:57                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25  8:03                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25  8:09                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 12:20                                       ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 21:47                                   ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-24 22:50                                 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25  4:14                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25 12:42                                     ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 21:52                                       ` Xavier Bestel
2001-10-25 23:53                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 23:53                                           ` Alan Cox
2001-10-26 11:35                                       ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-26 12:38                                         ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25  8:27                                 ` Rob Turk
2001-10-25 10:01                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 10:02                                   ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-25 14:20                                   ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-10-25 14:44                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-25 14:45                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-25 15:22                                     ` Rob Turk
2001-10-25 15:44                                       ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-25 16:26                                     ` David Lang
2001-10-25 21:59                                   ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-25 21:32                                     ` Rob Turk
2001-10-24 17:01                               ` Mike Anderson
2001-10-25  9:02                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-10-25  9:29                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25  9:47                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 10:11                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-10-25 10:59                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 15:18                         ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-24 15:41                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 15:59                           ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 15:56                             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-23  9:44             ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-23 11:03               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-23 11:49                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-23 10:54           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 17:56 Grover, Andrew
2001-10-24 18:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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