From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Alban Crequy <alban.crequy@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Alban Crequy <albancrequy@microsoft.com>,
Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, shuah@kernel.org,
Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>,
David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] mm/process_vm_access: pidfd and nowait support for process_vm_readv/writev
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2026 22:05:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8b29da5b-e260-4b77-a640-8abb447291d1@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260428122826.339550-2-alban.crequy@gmail.com>
On 4/28/26 14:28, Alban Crequy wrote:
> From: Alban Crequy <albancrequy@microsoft.com>
Hi,
some more smaller comments. Overall, LGTM.
>
> There are two categories of users for process_vm_readv:
>
> 1. Debuggers like GDB or strace.
>
> When a debugger attempts to read the target memory and triggers a
> page fault, the page fault needs to be resolved so that the debugger
> can accurately interpret the memory. A debugger is typically attached
> to a single process.
>
> 2. Profilers like OpenTelemetry eBPF Profiler.
>
> The profiler uses a perf event to get stack traces from all
> processes at 20Hz (20 stack traces to resolve per second). For
> interpreted languages (Ruby, Python, etc.), the profiler uses
> process_vm_readv to get the correct symbols. In this case,
> performance is the most important. It is fine if some stack traces
> cannot be resolved as long as it is not statistically significant.
>
> The current behaviour of process_vm_readv is to resolve page faults in
> the target VM. This is as desired for debuggers, but unwelcome for
> profilers because the page fault resolution could take a lot of time
> depending on the backing filesystem. Additionally, since profilers
> monitor all processes, we don't want a slow page fault resolution for
> one target process slowing down the monitoring for all other target
> processes.
>
> This patch adds the flag PROCESS_VM_NOWAIT, so the caller can choose to
> not block on IO if the memory access causes a page fault.
What is the expected return value to user space if we run into this case?
And in the same context: Will you send a man page update? :)
>
> Additionally, this patch adds the flag PROCESS_VM_PIDFD to refer to the
> remote process via PID file descriptor instead of PID. Such a file
> descriptor can be obtained with pidfd_open(2). This is useful to avoid
> the pid number being reused. It is unlikely to happen for debuggers
> because they can monitor the target process termination in other ways
> (ptrace), but can be helpful in some profiling scenarios.
>
> If a given flag is unsupported, the syscall returns the error EINVAL
> without checking the buffers. This gives a way to userspace to detect
> whether the current kernel supports a specific flag:
>
> process_vm_readv(pid, NULL, 1, NULL, 1, PROCESS_VM_PIDFD)
> -> EINVAL if the kernel does not support the flag PROCESS_VM_PIDFD
> (before this patch)
> -> EFAULT if the kernel supports the flag (after this patch)
>
> Signed-off-by: Alban Crequy <albancrequy@microsoft.com>
> ---
> v3:
> - Fix ERR_PTR handling for pidfd_get_task(): use IS_ERR()/PTR_ERR()
> for the pidfd path, matching process_madvise() (Usama Arif, Sashiko)
>
> v2:
> - Expand commit message with use-case motivation (David Hildenbrand)
> - Use unsigned long consistently for pvm_flags parameter (David Hildenbrand)
> - Add PROCESS_VM_SUPPORTED_FLAGS kernel-internal define (David Hildenbrand)
> - Keep (1UL << N) in UAPI header: BIT() is defined in vdso/bits.h
> which is not exported to userspace, so UAPI headers using BIT() would
> break when included from userspace programs (David Hildenbrand)
>
> MAINTAINERS | 1 +
> include/uapi/linux/process_vm.h | 9 +++++++++
> mm/process_vm_access.c | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++---------
> 3 files changed, 35 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> create mode 100644 include/uapi/linux/process_vm.h
>
> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
> index 2fb1c75afd16..0f6ce21d6235 100644
> --- a/MAINTAINERS
> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
> @@ -16786,6 +16786,7 @@ F: include/linux/ptdump.h
> F: include/linux/vmpressure.h
> F: include/linux/vmstat.h
> F: fs/proc/meminfo.c
> +F: include/uapi/linux/process_vm.h
We try to sort this alphabetically. Sometimes we failed. Likely this should just
go to one more line up.
> F: kernel/fork.c
> F: mm/Kconfig
> F: mm/debug.c
> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/process_vm.h b/include/uapi/linux/process_vm.h
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..4168e09f3f4e
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/process_vm.h
Thinking out loud: the c file is called "process_vm_access.c", should we name
the header like that as well?
> @@ -0,0 +1,9 @@
> +/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 WITH Linux-syscall-note */
> +#ifndef _UAPI_LINUX_PROCESS_VM_H
> +#define _UAPI_LINUX_PROCESS_VM_H
> +
> +/* Flags for process_vm_readv/process_vm_writev */
> +#define PROCESS_VM_PIDFD (1UL << 0)
> +#define PROCESS_VM_NOWAIT (1UL << 1)
Should we use BIT here? I see some usage in other uapi headers (e.g., tcp.h)
> +
> +#endif /* _UAPI_LINUX_PROCESS_VM_H */
> diff --git a/mm/process_vm_access.c b/mm/process_vm_access.c
> index 656d3e88755b..dacef50be0be 100644
> --- a/mm/process_vm_access.c
> +++ b/mm/process_vm_access.c
> @@ -14,6 +14,9 @@
> #include <linux/ptrace.h>
> #include <linux/slab.h>
> #include <linux/syscalls.h>
> +#include <linux/process_vm.h>
> +
> +#define PROCESS_VM_SUPPORTED_FLAGS (PROCESS_VM_PIDFD | PROCESS_VM_NOWAIT)
>
> /**
> * process_vm_rw_pages - read/write pages from task specified
> @@ -68,6 +71,7 @@ static int process_vm_rw_pages(struct page **pages,
> * @mm: mm for task
> * @task: task to read/write from
> * @vm_write: 0 means copy from, 1 means copy to
> + * @pvm_flags: PROCESS_VM_* flags
> * Returns 0 on success or on failure error code
> */
> static int process_vm_rw_single_vec(unsigned long addr,
> @@ -76,7 +80,8 @@ static int process_vm_rw_single_vec(unsigned long addr,
> struct page **process_pages,
> struct mm_struct *mm,
> struct task_struct *task,
> - int vm_write)
> + int vm_write,
> + unsigned long pvm_flags)
> {
> unsigned long pa = addr & PAGE_MASK;
> unsigned long start_offset = addr - pa;
> @@ -91,6 +96,8 @@ static int process_vm_rw_single_vec(unsigned long addr,
>
> if (vm_write)
> flags |= FOLL_WRITE;
> + if (pvm_flags & PROCESS_VM_NOWAIT)
> + flags |= FOLL_NOWAIT;
>
> while (!rc && nr_pages && iov_iter_count(iter)) {
> int pinned_pages = min_t(unsigned long, nr_pages, PVM_MAX_USER_PAGES);
> @@ -141,7 +148,7 @@ static int process_vm_rw_single_vec(unsigned long addr,
> * @iter: where to copy to/from locally
> * @rvec: iovec array specifying where to copy to/from in the other process
> * @riovcnt: size of rvec array
> - * @flags: currently unused
> + * @flags: process_vm_readv/writev flags
> * @vm_write: 0 if reading from other process, 1 if writing to other process
> *
> * Returns the number of bytes read/written or error code. May
> @@ -163,6 +170,7 @@ static ssize_t process_vm_rw_core(pid_t pid, struct iov_iter *iter,
> unsigned long nr_pages_iov;
> ssize_t iov_len;
> size_t total_len = iov_iter_count(iter);
> + unsigned int f_flags;
>
> /*
> * Work out how many pages of struct pages we're going to need
> @@ -194,10 +202,18 @@ static ssize_t process_vm_rw_core(pid_t pid, struct iov_iter *iter,
> }
>
> /* Get process information */
> - task = find_get_task_by_vpid(pid);
> - if (!task) {
> - rc = -ESRCH;
> - goto free_proc_pages;
> + if (flags & PROCESS_VM_PIDFD) {
> + task = pidfd_get_task(pid, &f_flags);
> + if (IS_ERR(task)) {
> + rc = PTR_ERR(task);
This could return -EBADF or -ESRCH. We should document both in the man page. (or
decide to always return -ESRCH, dunno)
--
Cheers,
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-28 20:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-28 12:28 [PATCH v3 0/2] mm/process_vm_access: pidfd and nowait support for process_vm_readv/writev Alban Crequy
2026-04-28 12:28 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] " Alban Crequy
2026-04-28 20:05 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-04-29 6:41 ` Christian Brauner
2026-04-29 6:41 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-05-14 9:15 ` Alban Crequy
2026-05-14 14:34 ` Alban Crequy
2026-04-28 12:28 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] selftests/mm: add tests for process_vm_readv flags Alban Crequy
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