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From: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>
To: "Dixit, Ashutosh" <ashutosh.dixit@intel.com>,
	Vinay Belgaumkar <vinay.belgaumkar@intel.com>
Cc: intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Andi Shyti <andi.shyti@intel.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH] drm/i915/mtl: Connect root sysfs entries to GT0
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2023 14:21:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8cccd992-1e5d-7121-c4cb-fb845b33128e@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874jsvazvi.wl-ashutosh.dixit@intel.com>


On 13/01/2023 03:15, Dixit, Ashutosh wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 18:27:52 -0800, Vinay Belgaumkar wrote:
>>
>> Reading current root sysfs entries gives a min/max of all
>> GTs. Updating this so we return default (GT0) values when root
>> level sysfs entries are accessed, instead of min/max for the card.
>> Tests that are not multi GT capable will read incorrect sysfs
>> values without this change on multi-GT platforms like MTL.
>>
>> Fixes: a8a4f0467d70 ("drm/i915: Fix CFI violations in gt_sysfs")
> 
> We seem to be proposing to change the previous sysfs ABI with this patch?
> But even then it doesn't seem correct to use gt0 values for device level
> sysfs. Actually I received the following comment about using max freq
> across gt's for device level freq's (gt_act_freq_mhz etc.) from one of our
> users:
> 
> -----
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 08:54:04 -0800, Lawson, Lowren H wrote:
> 
> Why show maximum? Wouldn’t average be more accurate to the user experience?
> 
> As a user, I expect the ‘card’ frequency to be relatively accurate to the
> entire card. If I see 1.6GHz, but the card is behaving as if it’s running a
> 1.0 & 1.6GHz on the different compute tiles, I’m going to see a massive
> decrease in compute workload performance while at ‘maximum’ frequency.
> -----
> 
> So I am not sure why max/min were previously chosen. Why not the average?

I think we still have time to just either stop exposing the global files 
on multi-tile platforms (all are under force probe), or return some 
error from them.

IMO it's not kernel's job to provide any representation here - be in 
min, max, sum or average (different "blending" methods were discussed 
for different files) - all of them have some potential to be misleading 
from different angles.

Regards,

Tvrtko

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-13 14:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-13  2:27 [Intel-gfx] [PATCH] drm/i915/mtl: Connect root sysfs entries to GT0 Vinay Belgaumkar
2023-01-13  2:27 ` Vinay Belgaumkar
2023-01-13  3:15 ` [Intel-gfx] " Dixit, Ashutosh
2023-01-13  3:15   ` Dixit, Ashutosh
2023-01-13  4:26   ` Belgaumkar, Vinay
2023-01-13  4:26     ` Belgaumkar, Vinay
2023-01-13  4:37     ` Dixit, Ashutosh
2023-01-13  4:37       ` Dixit, Ashutosh
2023-01-13  4:48       ` Belgaumkar, Vinay
2023-01-13  4:48         ` Belgaumkar, Vinay
2023-01-16 18:58         ` Andi Shyti
2023-01-16 18:58           ` Andi Shyti
2023-01-16 19:35           ` Belgaumkar, Vinay
2023-01-16 19:35             ` Belgaumkar, Vinay
2023-01-16 19:49             ` Andi Shyti
2023-01-16 19:49               ` Andi Shyti
2023-01-13 14:21   ` Tvrtko Ursulin [this message]
2023-01-13  3:43 ` [Intel-gfx] ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success for " Patchwork
2023-01-13 14:10 ` [Intel-gfx] ✓ Fi.CI.IGT: " Patchwork

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