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From: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] /proc/<pid>/stat access stalls badly for swapping  process,2.4.0-test10
Date: 10 Nov 2000 22:20:38 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8uiofm$1tr$1@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10011091005390.1909-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> <3A0C6BD6.A8F73950@dm.ultramaster.com>

In article <3A0C6BD6.A8F73950@dm.ultramaster.com>,
David Mansfield  <lkml@dm.ultramaster.com> wrote:
>Linus Torvalds wrote:
>...
>> 
>> And it has everything to do with the fact that the way Linux semaphores
>> are implemented, a non-blocking process has a HUGE advantage over a
>> blocking one. Linux kernel semaphores are extreme unfair in that way.
>>
>...
>> The original running process comes back faulting again, finds the
>> semaphore still unlocked (the "ps" process is awake but has not gotten to
>> run yet), gets the semaphore, and falls asleep on the IO for the next
>> page.
>> 
>> The "ps" process actually gets to run now, but it's a bit late. The
>> semaphore is locked again.
>> 
>> Repeat until luck breaks the bad circle.
>> 
>
>But doesn't __down have a fast path coded in assembly?  In other words,
>it only hits your patched code if there is already contention, which
>there isn't in this case, and therefore the bug...?

The __down() case should be hit if there's a waiter, even if that waiter
has not yet been able to pick up the lock (the waiter _will_ have
decremented the count to negative in order to trigger the proper logic
at release time).

But as I mentioned, the pseudo-patch was certainly untested, so
somebody should probably walk through the cases to check that I didn't
miss something.

		Linus
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-11-11  6:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.Linu.4.10.10011091452270.747-100000@mikeg.weiden.de>
2000-11-09 18:31 ` [BUG] /proc/<pid>/stat access stalls badly for swapping process, 2.4.0-test10 Linus Torvalds
2000-11-10  7:34   ` Mike Galbraith
2000-11-10 10:47     ` Mike Galbraith
2000-11-10 17:07     ` Linus Torvalds
2000-11-10 21:42   ` [BUG] /proc/<pid>/stat access stalls badly for swapping process,2.4.0-test10 David Mansfield
2000-11-11  6:20     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2000-11-01 18:38 [BUG] /proc/<pid>/stat access stalls badly for swapping process, 2.4.0-test10 David Mansfield
2000-11-01 18:48 ` Rik van Riel
2000-11-02  7:19   ` Mike Galbraith
2000-11-02 21:59     ` Val Henson
2000-11-03  1:37       ` Jens Axboe
2000-11-03  5:56         ` Mike Galbraith
2000-11-03 15:45           ` Mike Galbraith
2000-11-03 19:38             ` Jens Axboe
2000-11-04  5:43               ` Mike Galbraith
2000-11-02  8:40   ` Christoph Rohland

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