From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Z9rb7-0004tD-Qd for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 05:12:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53335) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9rb2-0004su-KU for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 05:12:56 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9ras-0000Wj-BR for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 05:12:52 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:64741) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9ras-0000WL-2Y for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 05:12:42 -0400 Received: from scdbackup.webframe.org ([91.63.122.175]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MCPhl-1ZIyHO2i6D-00982Q for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 11:12:39 +0200 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 11:13:30 +0200 From: "Thomas Schmitt" To: grub-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: Help output inconsistency: -v vs. -V Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <55924C00.3030107@jelmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55924C00.3030107@jelmail.com> Message-Id: <9341557282950222253@scdbackup.webframe.org> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:LQPZa74+QFaBMqTCJqEKOoZz+wlzly0UQHceInxNl2MTqoKH1ek UY2IGgL0I0I/VtMOP6D5dMyABBHVjEA1L6heA2ILP1NJ4EYlHKcy10N39Z3nNP/AHem9Nr/ roirG6IeK3WCf81nOpEA+sJlZ2vnr1SMYRPB5lPeugi3fCvc9h56NI7lqZi4cfEifG/k41w mP/sX+Rm61wk871+GZWHQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:BMUtLQtYF1w=:AQSHq45u0QHT8rt+N9v7nQ YGAZzoyTWuIc2yy3bw+tqPtA8SxxpiI/EmxpIMPYTAEDyogatzFaHwl9NzUpfViFbVXYvGfis Au1LSMWi0VfH+Q0NohdgwDC/bWFI51sWe3frbVvV2+Ewt02jyAfZ64EKK9Hvzova/zoX/hUYR J5eIdNILBGqW4FmE+98SgPUvp+5pjvCaFdP7omKSGjvZIY0xzhfjkF8TrmF2a6+l6dZMH6Ktk f7S2PHTl4H28rfFd6H7FVpuMY52xVIn97SNPO1A2DQWvX7GzhU0cDhOKOroqU+7ZE2b4vGohb DrLZxRanOs4vrQdGRAOkkOCg9hUk0w4Vsrtuf25T3oUFRn4ZiMSV4g3yATOqdHbAGFfrt05HU LBGdj6sPg/UOBFkk5Y4q345OJWp4gig0uAxtpYvcEpGmyJ351/Yk9agf+p/l7QvtSfCLY5P7f pJSo5smN+B84zOM9gkQdTfGKh8n/NQx++xRLUUfui60lA8J+MftBkn52/ohGykGN4LyKwodaL rcRxuuC2fVQPFCXu0zPjw5rXu9M3q1Yiz4V4eXNXHA2KAnOKDf2WgGHmbGzCviUbLoMFu9q0s 86/3G6KKUa50rWdOANJasFm0+khQ9bwHKS4TR+cvrAsDj3T5HlDCoFhNRT/JYrXYZF4w4ptqf lnwa1DTKlyj0ME+lafh8ahPgbJqDS3yX5gyJGRjn9a91CHoSeG0kQk1BC3Bims59Ucos= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.21 X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GNU GRUB List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 09:12:56 -0000 Hi, John Lane wrote: > My natural inclination is to reach for "-v" when I want verbose output Same for me. -v for version seems odd. (I am spoiled by archivers and data transfer programs.) But since it is the old CLI, one would have to declare that one obsolete and start a new rectified one. > So, "-V for --version and -v for --verbose" works for me. Since grub-mkrescue stays with automatic distinction of own options and xorrisofs options, one would have to mention in its docs that one has to use xorrisofs option "-volid" rather than xorrisofs option "-V". I personally would drop "-V" as grub-mkrescue option. It collides with the traditional option set of mkisofs, which is in use by many scripts for bootable ISOs. Consuming it by grub-mkrescue would hamper the migration from such scripts to grub-mkrescue. Well, "--version" collides with the mkisofs-ish option set, too. But i cannot think of a use case which needs to print the version information in the course of ISO production. Have a nice day :) Thomas