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From: Leon Hwang <leon.hwang@linux.dev>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>, bpf@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Emil Tsalapatis <emil@etsalapatis.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Puranjay Mohan <puranjay@kernel.org>,
	Anton Protopopov <a.s.protopopov@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH bpf 0/6] bpf: Disallow interpreter fallback for interpreter-unsupported insns
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2026 14:20:57 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <945b57b1-c2ed-44d2-8fa7-07300930783c@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DJN001X0S57Y.18CKUS4NDDQT1@gmail.com>

On 1/7/26 13:50, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Tue Jun 30, 2026 at 7:59 PM PDT, Leon Hwang wrote:
>> On 1/7/26 07:12, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>> On Fri Jun 26, 2026 at 8:43 AM PDT, Leon Hwang wrote:
>> [...]
>>>
>>> I don't think we need such fallback in patch [3].
>>
>> Do you mean we can add the internal BPF_ADDR_PERCPU insn support to the
>> interpreter?
>
> No. See why CONFIG_BPF_JIT_ALWAYS_ON was introduced.
> The interpreter is a security hole.

Got it. The commit message of
290af86629b2 ("bpf: introduce BPF_JIT_ALWAYS_ON config") has explained
the security concern.

> It has to be _compiled out_ of the kernel.
> Hence all patches that improve fallback to interpreter are misguided.
> The interpreter has to be removed completely... sooner or later.

Will disallow interpreter fallback for the internal BPF_ADDR_PERCPU
insn.

Thanks,
Leon

      reply	other threads:[~2026-07-01  6:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-26 15:43 [RFC PATCH bpf 0/6] bpf: Disallow interpreter fallback for interpreter-unsupported insns Leon Hwang
2026-06-26 15:43 ` [RFC PATCH bpf 1/6] bpf: Disallow interpreter fallback for user BPF_ADDR_SPACE_CAST insn Leon Hwang
2026-06-30 14:29   ` KaFai Wan
2026-06-30 14:36     ` Leon Hwang
2026-07-01  1:26       ` Tiezhu Yang
2026-07-01  6:21         ` Leon Hwang
2026-07-01  6:49           ` Tiezhu Yang
2026-07-01  7:02             ` Leon Hwang
2026-07-01  7:29               ` Tiezhu Yang
2026-07-01  8:04                 ` Leon Huang Fu
2026-07-01  9:07                   ` Tiezhu Yang
2026-07-01 18:47                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-06-26 15:43 ` [RFC PATCH bpf 2/6] bpf: Disallow interpreter fallback for arena insn Leon Hwang
2026-06-26 15:43 ` [RFC PATCH bpf 3/6] bpf: Disallow interpreter fallback for BPF_MOV64_PERCPU_REG insn Leon Hwang
2026-06-26 15:43 ` [RFC PATCH bpf 4/6] bpf: Disallow interpreter fallback for internal BPF_PROBE_ATOMIC insn Leon Hwang
2026-06-26 15:43 ` [RFC PATCH bpf 5/6] bpf: Disallow interpreter fallback for gotox insn Leon Hwang
2026-06-26 15:43 ` [RFC PATCH bpf 6/6] lib/test_bpf: Add interpreter-fallback tests Leon Hwang
2026-06-26 16:11 ` [RFC PATCH bpf 0/6] bpf: Disallow interpreter fallback for interpreter-unsupported insns Leon Hwang
2026-06-30 23:12 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-07-01  2:59   ` Leon Hwang
2026-07-01  3:05     ` Leon Hwang
2026-07-01  5:50     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-07-01  6:20       ` Leon Hwang [this message]

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