From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx07.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.11]) by int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p07JSmpQ007370 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:28:48 -0500 Received: from web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.238.170]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id p07JSb7v012895 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:28:38 -0500 Message-ID: <963006.39922.qm@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <581831.19828.qm@web39308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <413157.10262.qm@web39310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4D25EAB4.6050606@cfl.rr.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:01:56 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Neu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] snapshot pools, lvm roadmap Reply-To: LVM general discussion and development List-Id: LVM general discussion and development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: LVM general discussion and development > I'm not sure what "Volume Shadow Copy" actually does, but we use DRBD (Data > Replicating Block Device) to remotely mirror block devices - which could be > marketed as "Volume Shadow Copy". MS's VSS is their implementation of snapshots at the fs level. For instance, you can set the C drive to back up to a D drive, allocating 80GB for all C drive snapshots. Snapshots are removed automatically on a First-In, First-Out basis as the storage ceiling is reached. Because the storage is shared, they can also be deduplicated for speed and storage efficiency. Again, this has been in place since 2003. As I understand LVM now, each snapshot must have individual storage allocated. When that ceiling is reached, the snapshot must still be manually removed. Since snapshot storage can't be shared, copied blocks must be written to every active snapshot, causing both a space and speed inefficiency. I'm familiar with DRBD and have implemented it on HA systems. It's great, but has nothing to do with the shared snapshots storage I desire for Linux.