From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA92505 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:29:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA72783 for linux-list; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:28:52 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from morgaine.engr.sgi.com (morgaine.engr.sgi.com [130.62.16.64]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA74183 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:28:51 -0800 (PST) mail_from (offer@morgaine.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from offer@localhost) by morgaine.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA21834 for linux@cthulhu; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:28:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:28:50 -0800 (PST) From: offer@morgaine.engr.sgi.com (Richard Offer) Message-Id: <9901191828.ZM20761@morgaine.engr.sgi.com> In-Reply-To: job bogan "Re: [Fwd: linus.linux.sgi.com]" (Jan 19, 8:04pm) References: <199901200204.UAA14601@piquin.uchicago.edu> X-Signature: Automatically generated by Richards Own Mail Signer (roms) X-Home-Page: http://reality.sgi.com/offer X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: linus.linux.sgi.com] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk * $ from job@piquin.uchicago.edu at "19-Jan: 8:04pm" | sed "1,$s/^/* /" * * * Your message dated: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:29:16 CST * * >The current mainstream memory offering is 70n/s and we are at 50n/s. The memo * >ry is not proprietary - any manufacturer could buy it if their system could dr * >ive it fast enough! * * pardon me but... * Cut the SGI - "We Are Better Than God, Bow Before Our I/O" crap. * * Lots of PCs use 10ns SDRAM and 6ns SDRAM all of the time. Well, I couldn't see anything faster than 60ns on Kingstons store. http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/kepler/specs.asp * * Humm, a look at the glossies for the 320 and 540 make it look like all * of SGI is working off a typo. It lists: * * 100 MHz (50 ns) ECC synchronous dynamic RAM (SDRAM) * that should read 5ns. and beyond that, lots of people sell 100Mhz * capable SDRAM. (eg http://www.memoryx.com/generic.htm) I'd guess that their 10ns is a misprint as its cheap and listed in the PC-66 section. Isn't 100Mhz and 50ns a measure of two different things ? This is meant as a serious question, as I don't know. But, I'd guess that one is the refresh and one the time to access ? * * I might buy some if they are competitive w/ plain old white Linux boxes. How do you measure 'competitive' ? For me, they aren't; for my next-cubicle neighbour they would be. Luckily we don't live in a one size (hardware/software) fits all world. * job * richard. _______________________________________________________________________ A guest signature by Dan Boyd (boyd at cs.buffalo.edu) A competent sysadmin can turn any task into one resembling system administration and requiring a Makefile.