From: Nicola Vetrini <nicola.vetrini@bugseng.com>
To: Elliott Mitchell <ehem+xen@m5p.com>
Cc: "Jan Beulich" <jbeulich@suse.com>,
"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
"Anthony PERARD" <anthony.perard@vates.tech>,
"Michal Orzel" <michal.orzel@amd.com>,
"Julien Grall" <julien@xen.org>,
"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
"Roberto Bagnara" <roberto.bagnara@bugseng.com>,
"consulting @ bugseng . com" <consulting@bugseng.com>,
"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xen: Use __auto_type
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 21:58:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9b616ece73d57d8bf5f524e50da14640@bugseng.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aCI9MZRN1A753Nw9@mattapan.m5p.com>
On 2025-05-12 20:25, Elliott Mitchell wrote:
> On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 03:00:18PM +0200, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 12.05.2025 14:09, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> >
>> > Now for the (new) controversial part. Since sending this, Linux has
>> > decided to just #define auto __auto_type for C < 23, in order to start
>> > writing C23 compatible code from now. It's more succinct, and has
>> > better longevity.
>> >
>> > We might want to consider the same, although it will introduce a new
>> > example of defining a keyword, which we'd have to call out in the
>> > MISRA/Eclair config.
>>
>> I'm not outright opposed, as I don't think we use "auto" with its
>> original semantics, but it feels somewhat odd.
>
> Problem is "auto" already has a defined meaning in C. Having this will
> subtly break contributions from authors who weren't familiar with
> everything in Xen's headers. For anyone who does anything with
> projects
> besides Xen this will encourage bad habits.
>
> I believe many projects have a rule of *never* #define C keywords. I'm
> surprised such made it into the Linux kernel. I expect it will be
> ripped
> out in the near future.
>
> MISRA *doesn't* absolutely forbid this?
It does, and in fact I don't think that is a wise decision (it's not
quite UB I think because Xen does not use standard library headers, but
still). However Xen does already #define "inline" with a specific
rationale. I could find only [1] as a reference to the discussion in
Linux, but perhaps I missed something. Do you have more recent thread
@Andrew?
[1]
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/d4f87590-6cbb-4ee9-bead-7d958fc1fa83@p183/#R
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-12 19:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-05 12:46 [PATCH] xen: Use __auto_type Andrew Cooper
2025-05-05 12:57 ` Nicola Vetrini
2025-05-05 13:00 ` Andrew Cooper
2025-05-05 19:44 ` Stefano Stabellini
2025-05-12 11:59 ` Jan Beulich
2025-05-12 12:09 ` Andrew Cooper
2025-05-12 12:41 ` Frediano Ziglio
2025-05-12 13:00 ` Jan Beulich
2025-05-12 18:25 ` Elliott Mitchell
2025-05-12 19:58 ` Nicola Vetrini [this message]
2025-05-12 23:04 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-05-12 23:31 ` Andrew Cooper
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