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From: Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>, Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
Cc: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	jacob.pan@linux.microsoft.com, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Vasant Hegde <vasant.hegde@amd.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, security@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] iommu/sva: Invalidate KVA range on kernel TLB flush
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 09:19:07 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9d289b97-570d-49af-aa6e-acc98df41015@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aHUZIVbLV9KAoZ3H@kernel.org>

On 7/14/25 22:50, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 03:19:17PM +0200, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 01:39:20PM +0100, David Laight wrote:
>>> On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 11:22:34 -0700
>>> Dave Hansen<dave.hansen@intel.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/9/25 11:15, Jacob Pan wrote:
>>>>>>> Is there a use case where a SVA user can access kernel memory in the
>>>>>>> first place?
>>>>>> No. It should be fully blocked.
>>>>>>   
>>>>> Then I don't understand what is the "vulnerability condition" being
>>>>> addressed here. We are talking about KVA range here.
>>>> SVA users can't access kernel memory, but they can compel walks of
>>>> kernel page tables, which the IOMMU caches. The trouble starts if the
>>>> kernel happens to free that page table page and the IOMMU is using the
>>>> cache after the page is freed.
>>>>
>>>> That was covered in the changelog, but I guess it could be made a bit
>>>> more succinct.
> But does this really mean that every flush_tlb_kernel_range() should flush
> the IOMMU page tables as well? AFAIU, set_memory flushes TLB even when bits
> in pte change and it seems like an overkill...

As far as I can see, only the next-level page table pointer in the
middle-level entry matters. SVA is not allowed to access kernel
addresses, which has been ensured by the U/S bit in the leaf PTEs, so
other bit changes don't matter here.

Thanks,
baolu

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-15  1:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-04 13:30 [PATCH 1/1] iommu/sva: Invalidate KVA range on kernel TLB flush Lu Baolu
2025-07-04 13:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-05  3:50   ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-05  9:06 ` Vasant Hegde
2025-07-08  5:42 ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-08 12:27   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-08 14:06     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-09  1:25       ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-09 15:51 ` Jacob Pan
2025-07-09 16:27   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-09 18:15     ` Jacob Pan
2025-07-09 18:22       ` Dave Hansen
2025-07-09 18:44         ` Jacob Pan
2025-07-09 18:54           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-14 12:39         ` David Laight
2025-07-14 13:19           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-07-14 14:50             ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-15  0:05               ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-15  1:19               ` Baolu Lu [this message]
2025-07-10  2:57       ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-10 15:28         ` Jacob Pan
2025-07-10 15:35           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-11 14:36           ` Dave Hansen

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