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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: "Yoder Stuart-B08248" <stuart.yoder@freescale.com>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 15/16] Add device tree for Ebony
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:12:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9df9bf3adf511f4c1a7945e022fdd447@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9696D7A991D0824DBA8DFAC74A9C5FA302A1B86F@az33exm25.fsl.freescale.net>

>> I would use device_type "plb" (or "plb4") and "opb" I think.
>> Similar to how PCI and ISA etc. busses are represented.
>
> I think we should avoid making up new device_types unlesss it
> really is necessary.

In the case of peripheral busses there is significant
precedence though.  And it makes a lot of sense, too.

> Is it really necessary to distinguish between devices on
> the PLB or OPB?

This isn't about devices on the bus -- it is about the
bus itself.

> As I undestand it the "soc" device type is a logical container
> for a group of devices in an SOC, not necessarily a group
> of devices on the same bus.  Could we simply list all those
> devices under an "soc" node at the same level.

A "soc" node is meant to contain SoC specific stuff like
clock registers or whatnot.  It typically wouldn't have
child nodes.

> If for some reason the bus hierarchy distinction _is_ required,

It doesn't matter if you feel it is required.  You could in
principal list all devices as direct children of the root
node, if you take your argument to the extreme.  The device
tree is meant to reflect the physical hierarchy of the
devices in the system -- so it should show the PLB etc.
busses.  Maybe some day in the future the kernel can actually
make good use of the extra knowledge -- reconfigure something
about the PLB bus for example, who knows.  Also remember that
the device tree is *not* just for Linux, any argument that
says "Linux doesn't need this" is irrelevant.  And, again,
maybe Linux _could_ make good use of it.

> my suggestion would be to create new generic device type for
> representing an internal bus.   The "device_type" is supposed
> to be somewhat general-- "network", "serial", etc.

The device_type represents the programming model of the
device (programming model for OF).  Each type of bus has
its own programming model.  Your suggestion makes sense
for bus bridges that are 100% transparent -- same address
domain on both sides, completely identical ordering rules,
no configuration whatsoever.  I've never seen such a bus.

> The general philosophy is a general device_type prooperty and
> a specific compatible property.

For devices yes, but these aren't (endpoint) devices.


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-14 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-13  6:09 [0/16] Preliminary Ebony (440GP) support for arch/powerpc David Gibson
2007-02-13  6:10 ` [PATCH 3/16] [powerpc] Use udbg_early_init() on ppc32 David Gibson
2007-02-13  6:22   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-13  6:10 ` [PATCH 2/16] More DCR native fixups David Gibson
2007-02-13  6:22   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-13  6:10 ` [PATCH 4/16] powerpc: Allow duplicate lmb_reserve() calls David Gibson
2007-02-13  7:05   ` Michael Neuling
2007-02-13  8:48     ` Michael Ellerman
2007-02-13 20:44     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-13  6:10 ` [PATCH 5/16] powerpc: Add zImage platform hook for kernel address David Gibson
2007-02-13  6:10 ` [PATCH 1/16] Remove ibm4{xx,4x}.h from arch/powerpc David Gibson
2007-02-13 14:19   ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-13  6:10 ` [PATCH 8/16] Define FIXED_PORT flag for serial_core David Gibson
2007-02-13  6:10 ` [PATCH 6/16] Port 44x MMU definitions to ARCH=powerpc David Gibson
2007-02-13  6:24   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-13 17:13     ` Roland Dreier
2007-02-13 17:45       ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-13 21:36       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-13  6:10 ` [PATCH 7/16] Early serial debug support for PPC44x David Gibson
2007-02-13 15:04   ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-14  0:16     ` David Gibson
2007-02-14  1:02       ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-14  1:00         ` David Gibson
2007-02-14  2:00           ` Alan Modra
2007-02-14  2:02             ` David Gibson
2007-02-14  2:38               ` Alan Modra
2007-02-14 15:41                 ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-14 23:05                   ` David Gibson
2007-02-13  6:10 ` [PATCH 11/16] zImage wrapper for Ebony David Gibson
2007-02-13 17:05   ` Geoff Levand
2007-02-14  0:17     ` David Gibson
2007-02-13  6:10 ` [PATCH 12/16] Automatically lmb_reserve() initrd David Gibson
2007-02-13  7:14   ` Michael Neuling
2007-02-13  6:10 ` [PATCH 9/16] Use resource_size_t for serial port IO addresses David Gibson
2007-02-13  6:10 ` [PATCH 10/16] Add support for BSS stack for zImage wrapper David Gibson
2007-02-13  6:10 ` [PATCH 14/16] Add arch/powerpc driver for UIC, PPC4xx interrupt controller David Gibson
2007-02-13  6:10 ` [PATCH 13/16] Add initrd properties to device tree from zImage David Gibson
2007-02-13  6:10 ` [PATCH 15/16] Add device tree for Ebony David Gibson
2007-02-13 20:08   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14  0:22     ` David Gibson
2007-02-14  1:51       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-14  4:46         ` David Gibson
2007-02-14 17:54           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 23:18             ` David Gibson
2007-02-15  0:25               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 17:51         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 17:48       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 21:30         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-15  0:03           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15  0:53             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-15  1:00               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15  2:22                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-15  2:51                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 23:17         ` David Gibson
2007-02-15  0:27           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15 14:02             ` Jon Loeliger
2007-02-15 14:56               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15 17:02                 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-02-15 17:10                   ` Scott Wood
2007-02-16  9:20                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 16:14   ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-02-14 16:32     ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-14 17:58       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 20:08         ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-02-14 21:12           ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2007-02-14 21:35             ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-02-14 21:42               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-14 21:59                 ` Scott Wood
2007-02-15  0:20                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 22:50                 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-02-14 22:57                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-15  0:17                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15  2:12                   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-02-15  2:43                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15  3:15                       ` Paul Mackerras
2007-02-15 14:40                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-16  1:17                           ` Paul Mackerras
2007-02-16  9:41                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15  0:10               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 23:32             ` David Gibson
2007-02-14 23:27           ` David Gibson
2007-02-14 23:22         ` David Gibson
2007-02-14 23:51           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-15  0:36             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15  0:31           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15  1:53             ` David Gibson
2007-02-15  3:09               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15  3:33                 ` David Gibson
2007-02-15 14:47                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15 10:52                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-15 14:52                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15 20:43                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-16  9:23                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15 16:37                 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-02-15 21:41                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-16  9:25                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-16 15:32                     ` Hartmut Penner
2007-02-16 16:47                       ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-02-19 12:02                         ` Hartmut Penner
2007-02-14 21:29       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-13  6:10 ` [PATCH 16/16] Support for Ebony in arch/powerpc David Gibson
2007-02-13 17:18   ` Roland Dreier
2007-02-14  0:20     ` David Gibson
2007-02-13 14:37 ` [0/16] Preliminary Ebony (440GP) support for arch/powerpc Josh Boyer
2007-02-13 20:21   ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-13 15:46 ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-14 16:06   ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-14 23:12     ` David Gibson
2007-02-16  2:19       ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-16  2:53         ` David Gibson
2007-02-16  4:33           ` Josh Boyer

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