From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eu-smtp-delivery-151.mimecast.com (eu-smtp-delivery-151.mimecast.com [185.58.86.151]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6DCB58AB4 for ; Tue, 28 May 2024 09:09:31 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=185.58.86.151 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1716887375; cv=none; b=ZgK+1UdDWd6FLQjQCyD/wD8wa+ft3THchWf9ouIJRX9fmX4/db0S5twi4EnM1JKsmrzGXdWfAxqjDQMXHbcbL65MVhIGB0LEORNwUmkIX3SvH2mvFufmOXwl6TAMTZcISA5GH6A4eLdHxErk0v2FNLdrgtAtiUEv9YylHUH1DJk= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1716887375; c=relaxed/simple; bh=Dr1plMUq5SgjOG7qrt2sIx2BmogjkjMwKC+p5yj89Bs=; h=From:To:CC:Subject:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VEfW5HH1+vWMqOmz45kbdH1dmgRslVmejavG7IARW0TKEPPczEz/qWrlmLamEnzUOQJLDM/x8t5TpKugWbrQtd3S/ksgth8Ndq1ZrcJDQ1z+RPSQtghSF0q7Qedx9d8weqGslSwZhUnBW24DeWOuocNZoGCXax9iBUJveVoJ7ks= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=ACULAB.COM; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=aculab.com; arc=none smtp.client-ip=185.58.86.151 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=ACULAB.COM Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=aculab.com Received: from AcuMS.aculab.com (156.67.243.121 [156.67.243.121]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with both STARTTLS and AUTH (version=TLSv1.2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384) id uk-mta-78-mjR8z24COTGZ-4NyVWXsmg-1; Tue, 28 May 2024 10:08:14 +0100 X-MC-Unique: mjR8z24COTGZ-4NyVWXsmg-1 Received: from AcuMS.Aculab.com (10.202.163.4) by AcuMS.aculab.com (10.202.163.4) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.48; Tue, 28 May 2024 10:07:42 +0100 Received: from AcuMS.Aculab.com ([::1]) by AcuMS.aculab.com ([::1]) with mapi id 15.00.1497.048; Tue, 28 May 2024 10:07:42 +0100 From: David Laight To: 'Sirius' , Gedalya CC: Dragan Simic , "netdev@vger.kernel.org" Subject: RE: iproute2: color output should assume dark background Thread-Topic: iproute2: color output should assume dark background Thread-Index: AQHarRQG3CtEVsT2WEiJhmhC0DtZ4bGsYfMA Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 09:07:42 +0000 Message-ID: <9e1badfc5d3d47afbdd362c9e6faa01b@AcuMS.aculab.com> References: <173e0ec8-583a-4d5a-931f-81d08e43fe2b@gedalya.net> <96b17bae-47f7-4b2d-8874-7fb89ecc052a@gedalya.net> <449db665-0285-4283-972f-1b6d5e6e71a1@gedalya.net> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: aculab.com Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Sirius > Sent: 23 May 2024 14:20 >=20 > In days of yore (Thu, 23 May 2024), Gedalya thus quoth: > > Yes, echo -ne '\e]11;?\a' works on _some_ (libvte-based) terminals but = not > > all. And a core networking utility should be allowed to focus on, ehhm, > > networking rather than oddities of a myriad terminals. >=20 > Then it perhaps should not add colour to the output in the first place an= d > focus solely on the networking. >=20 > A suggestion would be the iproute2 package revert the option to compile > colourised output as default, sticking to plain text output as that > require zero assumptions about the user terminal. Carry on offering the > '-c' switch to enable it at runtime. +42 :-) An alias in .profile can add -c - leaving it easy to turn off. Especially for those of us who get fed up of garish colours. gdb is pretty impossible to use these days - blue on black ??? Syntax colouring in vi make the code look like paint has been spilt on the page - wouldn't be too bad if it was subtle (and correct). =09David - Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1 1= PT, UK Registration No: 1397386 (Wales)