From: "G Thomas, Rohan" <rohan.g.thomas@altera.com>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
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Alexandre Torgue <alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com>,
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Jose Abreu <Jose.Abreu@synopsys.com>,
Fugang Duan <fugang.duan@nxp.com>,
Kurt Kanzenbach <kurt@linutronix.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net v2] net: stmmac: Fix E2E delay mechanism
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2025 18:01:05 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9f0da5db-e92a-42e2-b788-2b07b8d28cfa@altera.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aTFuJUiLMnHrnpW5@shell.armlinux.org.uk>
Hi Russell,
Thanks for reviewing the patch.
On 12/4/2025 4:49 PM, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 04, 2025 at 10:58:40AM +0100, Paolo Abeni wrote:
>> On 11/29/25 4:07 AM, Rohan G Thomas wrote:
>>> For E2E delay mechanism, "received DELAY_REQ without timestamp" error
>>> messages show up for dwmac v3.70+ and dwxgmac IPs.
>>>
>>> This issue affects socfpga platforms, Agilex7 (dwmac 3.70) and
>>> Agilex5 (dwxgmac). According to the databook, to enable timestamping
>>> for all events, the SNAPTYPSEL bits in the MAC_Timestamp_Control
>>> register must be set to 2'b01, and the TSEVNTENA bit must be cleared
>>> to 0'b0.
>>>
>>> Commit 3cb958027cb8 ("net: stmmac: Fix E2E delay mechanism") already
>>> addresses this problem for all dwmacs above version v4.10. However,
>>> same holds true for v3.70 and above, as well as for dwxgmac. Updates
>>> the check accordingly.
>>>
>>> Fixes: 14f347334bf2 ("net: stmmac: Correctly take timestamp for PTPv2")
>>> Fixes: f2fb6b6275eb ("net: stmmac: enable timestamp snapshot for required PTP packets in dwmac v5.10a")
>>> Fixes: 3cb958027cb8 ("net: stmmac: Fix E2E delay mechanism")
>>> Signed-off-by: Rohan G Thomas <rohan.g.thomas@altera.com>
>>> ---
>>> v1 -> v2:
>>> - Rebased patch to net tree
>>> - Replace core_type with has_xgmac
>>> - Nit changes in the commit message
>>> - Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251125-ext-ptp-fix-v1-1-83f9f069cb36@altera.com/
>>
>> Given there is some uncertain WRT the exact oldest version to be used,
>> it would be great to have some 3rd party testing/feedback on this. Let's
>> wait a little more.
>
> As I said, in the v3.74 documentation, it is stated that the SNAPTYPSEL
> functions changed between v3.50 and v3.60, so I think it would be better
> to propose a patch to test for < v3.6.
>
I tested this on socfpga platforms like Agilex7 which are using
3.7x, but don't have any platforms with dwmac <= v3.6.
> Alternatively, if someone has the pre-v3.6 databook to check what the
> SNAPTYPSEL definition is and compare it with the v3.6+ definition, that
> would also be a good thing to do.
>
> From the 3.74:
>
> SNAPTYPSEL
> 00 ?
> 01 ?
> 10 Sync, Delay_Req
> 11 Sync, PDelay_Req, PDelay_Resp
>
> TSEVNTENA
> 0 All messages except Announce, Management and Signalling
> 1 Sync, Delay_Req, PDelay_Req, PDelay_Resp
>
> No table is provided, so it's difficult to know what all the bit
> combinations do for v3.74.
In 3.73a databook, Table 6-70 has the following information and this is
similar to v5.1 and v5.3. But don't have 3.74 databook.
SNAPTYPSEL TSMSTRENA TSEVNTENA PTP Messages
00 X 0 SYNC, Follow_Up,
Delay_Req, Delay_Resp
00 0 1 SYNC
00 1 1 Delay_Req
01 X 0 SYNC, Follow_Up,
Delay_Req, Delay_Resp,
Pdelay_Req, Pdelay_Resp,
Pdelay_Resp_Follow_Up
01 0 1 SYNC, Pdelay_Req,
Pdelay_Resp
01 1 1 Delay_Req, Pdelay_Req,
Pdelay_Resp
10 X X SYNC, Delay_Req
11 X X Pdelay_Req, Pdelay_Resp
>
> From STM32MP151 documentation (v4.2 according to GMAC4_VERSION
> register):
>
> SNAPTYPSEL TSMSTRENA TSEVNTENA
> 00 x 0 Sync, Delay_Req
> 00 0 1 Delay_Req
> 00 1 1 Sync
> 01 x 0 Sync, PDelay_Req, PDelay_Resp
> 01 0 1 Sync, Delay_Req, PDelay_Req,
> PDelay_Resp
> 01 1 1 Sync, PDelay_Req, PDelay_Resp
> 10 x x Sync, Delay_Req
> 11 x x Sync, PDelay_Req, PDelay_Resp
>
> For iMX8MP (v5.1) and STM32MP23/25xx (v5.3) documentatiion:
>
> SNAPTYPSEL TSMSTRENA TSEVNTENA
> 00 x 0 Sync, Follow_Up, Delay_Req,
> Delay_Resp
> 00 0 1 Sync
> 00 1 1 Delay_Req
> 01 x 0 Sync, Follow_Up, Delay_Req,
> Delay_Resp, PDelay_Req,
> PDelay_Resp
> 01 0 1 Sync, PDelay_Req, PDelay_Resp
> 01 1 1 Delay_Req, PDelay_Req,
> PDelay_Resp
> 10 x x Sync, Delay_Req
> 11 x x PDelay_Req, PDelay_Resp
>
> Differences:
> 00 x 0 - adds Follow_Up
> 00 X 1 - TSMSTRENA bit inverted
> 01 x 0 - adds Follow_Up, Delay_Req, Delay_Resp
> 01 0 1 - removes Delay_Req
> 01 1 1 - removes Sync, adds Delay_Req
> 11 x x - removes Sync
>
> So, it looks like there's another difference between v4.2 and v5.1.
>
> If the STM32MP151 (v4.2) documentation is correct, then from what I see
> in the driver, if HWTSTAMP_FILTER_PTP_V1_L4_SYNC is requested, we set
> SNAPTYPSEL=00 TSMSTRENA=0 TSEVNTENA=1, which semects Delay_Req messages
> only, but on iMX8MP this selects Sync messages.
>
> HWTSTAMP_FILTER_PTP_V1_L4_DELAY_REQ is the opposite (due to the
> inversion of TSMSTRENA) for SNAPTYPSEL=00.
>
> For HWTSTAMP_FILTER_PTP_V2_EVENT, we currently set SNAPTYPSEL=01
> TSMSTRENA=0 and TSEVNTENA=1 for cores < v4.1:
> - For STM32MP151 (v4.2) we get Sync, PDelay_Req, PDelay_Resp but
> _not_ Delay_Req. Seems broken.
> - For iMX8MP (v5.1) and STM32MP23/25xx (v5.3), we get
> Sync, Follow_Up, Delay_Req, Delay_Resp, PDelay_Req, PDelay_Resp
>
> Basically, the conclusion I am coming to is that Synopsys's idea
> of "lets tell the hardware what _kind_ of PTP clock we want to be,
> whether we're master, etc" is subject to multiple revisions in
> terms of which messages each mode selects, and it would have been
> _far_ simpler and easier to understand had they just provided a
> 16-bit bitfield of message types to accept.
>
> So, I'm wary about this change - I think there's more "mess"
> here than just that single version check in
> HWTSTAMP_FILTER_PTP_V2_EVENT, I think it's a lot more complicated.
> I'm not sure what the best solution is right now, because I don't
> have the full information, but it looks to me like the current
> approach does not result in the expected configuration for each
> of the dwmac core versions, and there are multiple issues here.
>
Best Regards,
Rohan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-09 12:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-29 3:07 [PATCH net v2] net: stmmac: Fix E2E delay mechanism Rohan G Thomas
2025-11-29 3:07 ` Rohan G Thomas via B4 Relay
2025-12-04 9:58 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-12-04 11:19 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-12-05 14:38 ` Richard Cochran
2025-12-09 12:31 ` G Thomas, Rohan [this message]
2025-12-09 13:01 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-12-09 12:27 ` G Thomas, Rohan
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