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From: Keir Fraser <keir@xensource.com>
To: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>,
	Virtualization Mailing List <virtualization@lists.osdl.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] i386 - pte update optimizations
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:31:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C2450C95.D3F6%keir@xensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <461EE9E5.6060403@vmware.com>

On 13/4/07 03:24, "Zachary Amsden" <zach@vmware.com> wrote:

>> You do know that P6 and higher don't do locked bus references as long
>> as the value is in the cache, right?
> 
> Yes.  Even then, last time I clocked instructions, xchg was still slower
> than read / write, although I could be misremembering.  And it's not
> totally clear that they will always be in cached state, however, and for
> SMP, we still want to drop the implicit lock in cases where the
> processor might not know they are cached exclusive, but we know there
> are no other racing users.  And there are plenty of old processors out
> there to still make it worthwhile.

LOCKed instruction suck really badly on the netburst microarchitecture (like
factor of 10x, or not far off). I think it's probably because of their side
effect of serialising memory accesses, causing horrible pipeline stalls.

 -- Keir

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-13  9:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-12  5:30 [PATCH 0/4] i386 - pte update optimizations Zachary Amsden
2007-04-13  1:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-13  1:25   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-13  2:24   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-04-13  6:00     ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-13  6:25       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-13  9:31     ` Keir Fraser [this message]
2007-04-13 12:27       ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-13 11:31         ` Keir Fraser
2007-04-13 15:34           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-13 15:34             ` H. Peter Anvin

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