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From: Robert LeBlanc <robert@leblancnet.us>
To: "Martin Schiøtz" <malinux@gmail.com>
Cc: Mail List - Netfilter <netfilter@lists.netfilter.org>
Subject: Re: NAT
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 08:29:46 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C2AFB97A.1D36E%robert@leblancnet.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e208f5d10707030055u69eef541qfe52bb0c3add3332@mail.gmail.com>




On 7/3/07 1:55 AM, "Martin Schiøtz" <malinux@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 7/3/07, Grant Taylor <gtaylor@riverviewtech.net> wrote:
>> On 7/3/2007 1:52 AM, Martin Schiøtz wrote:
>>> I'm going to setup a bridged NAT linux box for many users. I want one
>>> outside IP address to serve for instance 10.0.0.0/22.
>> 
>> Why do this with bridging?  If you have a 10.0.0.0/22 network like you
>> say, it is private and thus not globally routable.  So, to reach the
>> internet you will have to NAT to a globally routable IP.  Thus you have
>> a private subnet and a public subnet which is an ideal environment for a
>> layer 3 router.  Even if you are not going to a public IP but rather
>> another private IP, the same scenario holds true.
>> 
>> Or are you for some wanting wanting to perform a layer 3 function on
>> layer 2?  If so, can I ask why?
> 
> Ok, I think your right here.
> 
>> 
>>> I want to be sure that each local IP address always has 1024 NAT
>>> sessions available and that sessions is kept even if the timeout is
>>> reached. If 1024 sessions is reached and a new session is being
>>> established then it will take over the oldest (timed out) session.
>> 
>> I'm not sure that you will be able to specify how many NAT sessions each
>> system will have and / or how to control the expiration there of.  I do
>> know that you will have (or did have to in previous kernels) to have a
>> fair amount of RAM for the connection tracking table to not wrap on a
>> network of that size.
>> 
>>> Is this possible with iptables?
>> 
>> The first part of what you want to do (layer 2 or layer 3) NATing, yes.
>> 
>> As far as controlling how many sessions are reserved / maintained even
>> beyond timeouts, I don't know.  I'm betting not, especially to the latter.
>> 
> 
> I guess the question was more about controlling the number of NAT
> sessions pr. lokal IP address?

If you give iptables a range, it will try to do as little port mangeling as
possible, so I beilieve it will try to hold onto connections as long as
possible. We saw quite a performance when we moved our 100 users from one
Natted address to 64. I guess the mangeling made that much of a difference.
 
Robert LeBlanc
BioAg Computer Support
Brigham Young University
leblanc@byu.edu
(801)422-1882




  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-03 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-03  6:52 NAT Martin Schiøtz
2007-07-03  7:27 ` NAT Grant Taylor
2007-07-03  7:55   ` NAT Martin Schiøtz
2007-07-03 14:29     ` Robert LeBlanc [this message]
2007-07-30 14:11       ` check a simple set of rules richard
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-06 17:36 Nat mafioso1823
2004-06-07  7:38 ` Nat Antony Stone
2003-11-26  5:31 nat Paul Fontenot
2003-11-26  6:33 ` nat Daniel Chemko
2003-10-01 11:11 NAT tlussnig
2003-10-03 10:22 ` NAT Harald Welte
2002-09-08 20:43 Nat Mattia Martinello
2002-09-08 21:00 ` Nat Antony Stone
2002-09-08 21:27 ` Nat R. Sterenborg
2002-09-08 21:49 ` Nat Anders Fugmann
2002-06-14  8:29 nat saied tabandeh

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