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From: Peter Braam <Peter.Braam@Sun.COM>
To: lustre-devel@lists.lustre.org
Subject: [Lustre-devel] hiding non-fatal communications errors
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:17:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C46C546F.57D1%peter.braam@sun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <018701c8c646$6a6d56a0$0281a8c0@ebpc>

Andreas has been suggesting re-transmission of these callback (aka AST) RPCs
for years.  If we think it through carefully, it might be a simple solution.

Peter


On 6/4/08 6:25 AM, "Eric Barton" <eeb@sun.com> wrote:

> Something for recovery experts...
> 
> Communications may timeout for non-fatal reasons e.g...
> 
> 1. Adaptive timeouts were too aggressive (e.g. if server load has
>    suddenly become extreme).
> 
> 2. An LNET router has failed but one or more of its peers hasn't
>    detected this yet.
> 
> When a lustre client times out an RPC it sent to a server, it (a) allows
> pending signals to be delivered (i.e. you can now ^C the process doing
> the I/O) and (b) tries to reconnect and/or fail over.  If it reconnects
> and confirms that the server has not rebooted, the RPC is resent and
> may now succeed.
> 
> This should work in all "normal" RPCs (i.e. all RPCs apart from ldlm
> callbacks (ASTs)) since the server knows whether it actually processed
> the RPC or not and can handle the resent request appropriately.
> 
> However I think there is a problem if the RPC is an ldlm callback.  In
> this case, the lustre server sends the RPC to the lustre client and
> AFAIK the request is not resent if it times out.  If the request is a
> blocking AST, the lustre client isn't notified to clean its cache and
> cancel locks - and it risks being evicted.
> 
> How should this be handled?
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-04 21:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-04 13:25 [Lustre-devel] hiding non-fatal communications errors Eric Barton
2008-06-04 21:17 ` Peter Braam [this message]
2008-06-04 22:20   ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-05  4:12     ` Oleg Drokin
2008-06-05 16:42       ` Robert Read
2008-06-05 16:59         ` Oleg Drokin
2008-06-06  3:29           ` Peter Braam
2008-06-06  3:38             ` Oleg Drokin
2008-06-06  3:40               ` Peter Braam
2008-06-06  4:41                 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-06 11:13                   ` Eric Barton
2008-06-19 20:24                     ` Nathaniel Rutman
2008-06-06 12:23                   ` Peter Braam
2008-06-06  3:37         ` Peter Braam
2008-06-04 23:41   ` Eric Barton

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