Re: So very close, but so frustrating...

From: Rick Jones <rick@activeservice.co.uk>
To: Bastien Nocera <hadess@hadess.net>, Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
Cc: BlueZ development <linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org>,
	networkmanager-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: So very close, but so frustrating...
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:55:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CB7A3691FBC7EB0E857B7330@mineee> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1254439169.22191.317.camel@localhost.localdomain>

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I've just installed blueman, to replace bluez-gnome, and it does this 
perfectly.

It's a much better UI-oriented manager for BT devices altogether, it shows 
my phone, I click on "attach serial service", and it exposes the BT modem 
in DBus. NM 0.7 sees it just like a USB modem and it connects first time. 
Magic!

I'm too hardened to be often impressed first-time with a piece of software, 
but this was spot-on (does audio, obex, etc just as neatly). OK, it takes a 
couple of extra clicks to connect the phone, which I guess a built-in NM 
implementation could do automatically, but that's pretty minor.

Rick

--On Friday, October 02, 2009 00:19:29 +0100 Bastien Nocera 
<hadess@hadess.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 14:39 -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 20:18 -0400, Darren Albers wrote:
> <snip>
> > > At this time Network Manager does not support Bluetooth modems.   I
> > > think 0.8 supports phones if they use Bluetooth PAN but not Bluetooth
> > > DUN.
> >
> > Correct; I may just get bored enough today triaging bugs to go implement
> > DUN in 0.8.  That opens up a huge number of cellphones, which will
> > inevitably lead to even more bugs since there's much more phone
> > variation than in the relatively small data card space.  Oh well; it
> > would help a lot of people out.
>
> 1. Add ability for MM to identify Bluetooth modems
> 2. Add plugin in bluez to poke at the modem with MM if it doesn't know
> the type of device, cache the result, the bluez plugin exports the
> information through a service
> 3. Add DUN gnome-bluetooth plugin to nm-applet which would poke the
> bluez service
> 4. Add native support in NM to do the connection through bluetoothd
>
> After 3., if the box is ticked, the device should appear like an
> unconfigured WWAN modem to the user. The service configuration can then
> be done through nm-applet.
>
> I can certainly take care of 2. and 3. if you do 1. and the left-overs
> of 4 :)
>
> Cheers
>
>
>

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