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From: "Drew DeVault" <sir@cmpwn.com>
To: "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Ammar Faizi" <ammarfaizi2@gnuweeb.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	"io_uring Mailing List" <io-uring@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"Pavel Begunkov" <asml.silence@gmail.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Increase default MLOCK_LIMIT to 8 MiB
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 09:23:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CFRWRP3RTFT4.3VWRBA26OUSND@taiga> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211116133750.0f625f73a1e4843daf13b8f7@linux-foundation.org>

On Tue Nov 16, 2021 at 10:37 PM CET, Andrew Morton wrote:
> We're never going to get this right, are we? The only person who can
> decide on a system's appropriate setting is the operator of that
> system. Haphazardly increasing the limit every few years mainly
> reduces incentive for people to get this right.
>
> And people who test their software on 5.17 kernels will later find that
> it doesn't work on 5.16 and earlier, so they still need to tell their
> users to configure their systems appropriately. Until 5.16 is
> obsolete, by which time we're looking at increasing the default again.
>
> I don't see how this change gets us closer to the desired state:
> getting distros and their users to configure their systems
> appropriately.

Perfect is the enemy of good. This is a very simple change we can make
to improve the status quo, and I think that's worth doing. I do not have
time to develop a more sophisticated solution which steers the defaults
based on memory present, and I definitely don't have the time to
petition every distro to configure a better default for their particular
needs. This is the easiest way to get broad adoption for a better
default.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-17  8:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-28  8:08 [PATCH] Increase default MLOCK_LIMIT to 8 MiB Drew DeVault
2021-10-28 18:22 ` Jens Axboe
2021-11-04 14:27   ` Cyril Hrubis
2021-11-04 14:44     ` Jens Axboe
2021-11-06  2:33 ` Ammar Faizi
2021-11-06  7:05   ` Drew DeVault
2021-11-06  7:12     ` Ammar Faizi
2021-11-16  4:35       ` Andrew Morton
2021-11-16  6:32         ` Drew DeVault
2021-11-16 19:47           ` Andrew Morton
2021-11-16 19:48             ` Drew DeVault
2021-11-16 21:37               ` Andrew Morton
2021-11-17  8:23                 ` Drew DeVault [this message]
2021-11-22 17:11                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-22 17:55                   ` Andrew Dona-Couch
2021-11-22 18:26                     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-22 19:53                       ` Jens Axboe
2021-11-22 20:03                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-11-22 20:04                           ` Jens Axboe
2021-11-22 20:08                         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-22 20:44                           ` Jens Axboe
2021-11-22 21:56                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-23 12:02                               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-23 13:25                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-23 13:39                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-23 14:07                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-23 14:44                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-23 17:00                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-23 17:04                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-23 22:04                                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-11-23 23:59                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-24  8:57                                         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-24 13:23                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-24 13:25                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-24 13:28                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-24 13:29                                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-24 13:48                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-24 14:14                                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-24 15:34                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-24 16:43                                                         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-24 18:35                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-24 19:09                                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-24 23:11                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 15:52                                                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-24 18:37                                                           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-24 14:37                                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-11-24 14:41                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-16 18:36         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-11-16 18:44           ` Drew DeVault
2021-11-16 18:55           ` Jens Axboe
2021-11-16 19:21             ` Vito Caputo
2021-11-16 19:25               ` Drew DeVault
2021-11-16 19:46                 ` Vito Caputo
2021-11-16 19:41               ` Jens Axboe
2021-11-17 22:26         ` Johannes Weiner
2021-11-17 23:17           ` Jens Axboe
2021-11-18 21:58             ` Andrew Morton
2021-11-19  7:41               ` Drew DeVault

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