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From: "Jarkko Sakkinen" <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: "Stefano Garzarella" <sgarzare@redhat.com>,
	"Jarkko Sakkinen" <jarkko.sakkinen@iki.fi>
Cc: "Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	"James Bottomley" <james.bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	<linux-coco@lists.linux.dev>, "Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Peter Huewe" <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	<linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>, <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Joerg Roedel" <jroedel@suse.de>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Claudio Carvalho" <cclaudio@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Dov Murik" <dovmurik@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Tom Lendacky" <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] x86/sev: add a SVSM vTPM platform device
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 00:46:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D725TPWOVBUL.1DJAOZ0QL0RNH@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGxU2F4YQy-otsGtGiUHDiL7PGXic2_HzWL_+GHkn+Hs_ScGpQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue Jan 14, 2025 at 12:42 PM EET, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> Hi Jarkko,
>
> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 at 17:07, Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 05:40:58PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > >On Thu Dec 19, 2024 at 5:35 PM EET, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> > >> So to use them directly in sev, we would have to move these definitions
> > >> into include/linux/tpm.h or some other file in inlcude/. Is this
> > >> acceptable for TPM maintainers?
> > >
> > >There's only me.
> > >
> > >I don't know.
> > >
> > >What you want to put to include/linux/tpm.h anyway?
> >
> > At least tpmm_chip_alloc(), tpm2_probe(), and tpm_chip_register()
> >
> > >I have not followed this discussion.
> >
> > Let me try to summarize what we are doing: We are writing a small TPM
> > driver to support AMD SEV-SNP SVSM. Basically SVSM defines some sort of
> > hypercalls, which the guest OS can call to talk to the emulated vTPM.
> >
> > In the current version of this series, based on James' RFC, we have an
> > intermediate module (tpm_platform) and then another small driver
> > (platform_device) in arch/x86/coco/sev/core.c that registers the
> > callback to use.
> >
> > To avoid the intermediate driver (Jason correct me if I misunderstood),
> > we want to register the `tpm_chip` with its `tpm_class_ops` directly in
> > arch/x86/coco/sev/core.c where it's easy to use "SVSM calls" (i.e.
> > svsm_perform_call_protocol()).
> >
> > And here I have this problem, so I was proposing to expose these APIs.
> > BTW, we do have an alternative though that I proposed in the previous
> > email that might avoid this.
>
> Any thought on this?

A redundant super low-quality TPM stack driver implemtation to support
only single vendor's vTPM with speculative generalization.

It's a formula for destruction really.

I don't know if I event want to comment on this. Figure out a better
solution I guess that works together sound with existing stack.

If that helps we could make the main TPM driver only Y/N (instead of
tristate).

>
> Thanks,
> Stefano

[1] "could be used by any platform which communicates with a TPM device."

BR, Jarkko

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-14 22:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-10 14:34 [PATCH 0/3] Enlightened vTPM support for SVSM on SEV-SNP Stefano Garzarella
2024-12-10 14:34 ` [PATCH 1/3] tpm: add generic platform device Stefano Garzarella
2024-12-12  9:51   ` Stefano Garzarella
2024-12-12 14:35     ` James Bottomley
2024-12-12 15:30       ` Stefano Garzarella
2024-12-12 15:41         ` James Bottomley
2024-12-12 16:12           ` Stefano Garzarella
2024-12-10 14:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/sev: add SVSM call macros for the vTPM protocol Stefano Garzarella
2024-12-10 14:34 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/sev: add a SVSM vTPM platform device Stefano Garzarella
2024-12-10 14:40   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-12-10 14:55     ` James Bottomley
2024-12-10 15:04       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-12-11  8:19         ` Stefano Garzarella
2024-12-11 15:00           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-12-11 15:38             ` Stefano Garzarella
2024-12-11 15:53               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-12-11 16:42                 ` Stefano Garzarella
2024-12-19 15:35             ` Stefano Garzarella
2024-12-19 15:40               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-12-19 16:06                 ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-01-14 10:42                   ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-01-14 13:07                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-14 16:51                       ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-01-14 17:33                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-14 22:46                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2025-01-14 22:48                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-01-14 23:12                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-01-22 21:29                           ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2025-01-23  9:50                             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-01-23 10:09                               ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-01-23 11:46                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-01-23 11:49                                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-01-23 12:29                                     ` Stefano Garzarella
2024-12-11 16:30   ` Tom Lendacky
2024-12-11 16:55     ` Stefano Garzarella
2024-12-11 17:02     ` James Bottomley
2024-12-13 11:48       ` Stefano Garzarella

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