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From: "Alexandre Courbot" <gnurou@gmail.com>
To: "Alexandre Courbot" <gnurou@gmail.com>,
	"Albert Esteve" <aesteve@redhat.com>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@chromium.org>
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	<daniel.almeida@collabora.com>, <agordeev@qti.qualcomm.com>,
	<dverkamp@chromium.org>, <ribalda@google.com>,
	<alex.bennee@linaro.org>, <mst@redhat.com>,
	<nicolas.dufresne@collabora.com>, <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	<changyeon@google.com>, <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	<gurchetansingh@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/1] virtio-media: Add virtio media device specification
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 14:46:29 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D74402ZPCM0C.2H7L6GQ5CR07I@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D6YAQ9B0IPR7.1ZYKATYW5K8K7@gmail.com>

On Fri Jan 10, 2025 at 6:46 PM JST, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
> Hi Albert,
>
> On Wed Jan 8, 2025 at 1:25 AM JST, Albert Esteve wrote:
> > Hi Alexandre,
> >
> > Thanks for your comments! Partially covered here, responded inline
> > below. I'll go through the rest tomorrow.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2025 at 8:00 AM Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@chromium.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Albert,
> > >
> > > Thanks again for driving this. The current version looks good to me,
> > > but here are a few things I found while doing another pass.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 12:50 AM Albert Esteve <aesteve@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Virtio-media is an encapsulation of the V4L2 UAPI into
> > > > virtio, able to virtualize any video device supported
> > > > by V4L2.
> > > >
> > > > Note that virtio-media does not require the use of a
> > > > V4L2 device driver on the host or guest side -
> > > > V4L2 is only used as a host-guest protocol,
> > > > and both sides are free to convert it from/to any
> > > > model that they wish to use.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Albert Esteve <aesteve@redhat.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  conformance.tex                           |  13 +-
> > > >  content.tex                               |   1 +
> > > >  device-types/media/description.tex        | 575 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  device-types/media/device-conformance.tex |  10 +
> > > >  device-types/media/driver-conformance.tex |   8 +
> > > >  5 files changed, 603 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> > > >  create mode 100644 device-types/media/description.tex
> > > >  create mode 100644 device-types/media/device-conformance.tex
> > > >  create mode 100644 device-types/media/driver-conformance.tex
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/conformance.tex b/conformance.tex
> > > > index dc00e84..c369da1 100644
> > > > --- a/conformance.tex
> > > > +++ b/conformance.tex
> > > > @@ -32,8 +32,10 @@ \section{Conformance Targets}\label{sec:Conformance / Conformance Targets}
> > > >  \ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / Memory Driver Conformance},
> > > >  \ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / I2C Adapter Driver Conformance},
> > > >  \ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / SCMI Driver Conformance},
> > > > -\ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / GPIO Driver Conformance} or
> > > > -\ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / PMEM Driver Conformance}.
> > > > +\ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / GPIO Driver Conformance},
> > > > +\ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / PMEM Driver Conformance} or
> > > > +\ref{sec:Conformance / Driver Conformance / Media Driver Conformance}.
> > > > +
> > > >
> > > >      \item Clause \ref{sec:Conformance / Legacy Interface: Transitional Device and Transitional Driver Conformance}.
> > > >    \end{itemize}
> > > > @@ -59,8 +61,9 @@ \section{Conformance Targets}\label{sec:Conformance / Conformance Targets}
> > > >  \ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / Memory Device Conformance},
> > > >  \ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / I2C Adapter Device Conformance},
> > > >  \ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / SCMI Device Conformance},
> > > > -\ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / GPIO Device Conformance} or
> > > > -\ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / PMEM Device Conformance}.
> > > > +\ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / GPIO Device Conformance},
> > > > +\ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / PMEM Device Conformance} or
> > > > +\ref{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance / Media Device Conformance}.
> > > >
> > > >      \item Clause \ref{sec:Conformance / Legacy Interface: Transitional Device and Transitional Driver Conformance}.
> > > >    \end{itemize}
> > > > @@ -152,6 +155,7 @@ \section{Conformance Targets}\label{sec:Conformance / Conformance Targets}
> > > >  \input{device-types/scmi/driver-conformance.tex}
> > > >  \input{device-types/gpio/driver-conformance.tex}
> > > >  \input{device-types/pmem/driver-conformance.tex}
> > > > +\input{device-types/media/driver-conformance.tex}
> > > >
> > > >  \conformance{\section}{Device Conformance}\label{sec:Conformance / Device Conformance}
> > > >
> > > > @@ -238,6 +242,7 @@ \section{Conformance Targets}\label{sec:Conformance / Conformance Targets}
> > > >  \input{device-types/scmi/device-conformance.tex}
> > > >  \input{device-types/gpio/device-conformance.tex}
> > > >  \input{device-types/pmem/device-conformance.tex}
> > > > +\input{device-types/media/device-conformance.tex}
> > > >
> > > >  \conformance{\section}{Legacy Interface: Transitional Device and Transitional Driver Conformance}\label{sec:Conformance / Legacy Interface: Transitional Device and Transitional Driver Conformance}
> > > >  A conformant implementation MUST be either transitional or
> > > > diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> > > > index 0a62dce..59925ae 100644
> > > > --- a/content.tex
> > > > +++ b/content.tex
> > > > @@ -767,6 +767,7 @@ \chapter{Device Types}\label{sec:Device Types}
> > > >  \input{device-types/scmi/description.tex}
> > > >  \input{device-types/gpio/description.tex}
> > > >  \input{device-types/pmem/description.tex}
> > > > +\input{device-types/media/description.tex}
> > > >
> > > >  \chapter{Reserved Feature Bits}\label{sec:Reserved Feature Bits}
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/device-types/media/description.tex b/device-types/media/description.tex
> > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > index 0000000..d20d2f6
> > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > +++ b/device-types/media/description.tex
> > > > @@ -0,0 +1,575 @@
> > > > +\section{Media Device}\label{sec:Device Types / Media Device}
> > > > +
> > > > +The virtio media device follows the same model (and structures) as V4L2. It
> > > > +can be used to virtualize cameras, codec devices, or any other device
> > > > +supported by V4L2. The complete definition of V4L2 structures and ioctls can
> > > > +be found under the
> > > > +\href{https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/userspace-api/media/index.html}{V4L2 UAPI documentation}.
> > > > +
> > > > +V4L2 is a UAPI that allows a less privileged entity (user-space) to use video
> > > > +hardware exposed by a more privileged entity (the kernel). Virtio-media is an
> > > > +encapsulation of this API into virtio, turning it into a virtualization API
> > > > +for all classes of video devices supported by V4L2, where the device plays the
> > > > +role of the kernel and the driver the role of user-space.
> > > > +
> > > > +The device is therefore responsible for presenting a virtual device that behaves
> > > > +like an actual V4L2 device, which the driver can control.
> > > > +
> > > > +Note that virtio-media does not require the use of a V4L2 device driver or of
> > > > +Linux on any side - V4L2 is only used as a transport protocol,
> > > > +and both sides are free to convert it from/to any model that they wish to use.
> > > > +
> > > > +\subsection{Device ID}\label{sec:Device Types / Media Device / Device ID}
> > > > +
> > > > +48
> > > > +
> > > > +\subsection{Virtqueues}\label{sec:Device Types / Media Device / Virtqueues}
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{description}
> > > > +\item[0] commandq - used for driver commands and device responses to these
> > > > +commands.
> > > > +\item[1] eventq - used for events sent by the device to the driver.
> > > > +\end{description}
> > > > +
> > > > +\subsection{Feature Bits}\label{sec:Device Types / Media Device / Feature Bits}
> > > > +
> > > > +None
> > > > +
> > > > +\subsection{Device Configuration Layout}\label{sec:Device Types / Media Device / Device Configuration Layout}
> > > > +
> > > > +The video device configuration space uses the following layout:
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > > +struct virtio_media_config {
> > > > +    le32 device_caps;
> > > > +    le32 device_type;
> > > > +    le8 card[32];
> > > > +};
> > > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{description}
> > > > +\item[\field{device_caps}] (driver-read-only) flags representing the device
> > > > +capabilities as used in
> > > > +\href{https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/userspace-api/media/v4l/vidioc-querycap.html#c.V4L.v4l2_capability}{struct v4l2_capability}.
> > > > +It corresponds with the \field{device_caps} field in the \textit{struct video_device}.
> > > > +\item[\field{device_type}] (driver-read-only) informs the driver of the type
> > > > +of the video device. It corresponds with the \field{vfl_devnode_type} field of the device.
> > > > +\item[\field{card}] (driver-read-only) name of the device, a NUL-terminated
> > > > +UTF-8 string. It corresponds with the \field{card} field of the \textit{struct v4l2_capability}.
> > > > +If all the characters of the field are used, it does not need to be NUL-terminated.
> > > > +\end{description}
> > > > +
> > > > +\subsection{Device Initialization}
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{enumerate}
> > > > +\item Read the \field{device_caps} and \field{device_type} fields
> > > > +from the configuration layout to identify the device.
> > > > +\item Set up the \field{commandq} and \field{eventq}.
> > > > +\item May open a session (see Section \ref{sec:Device Operation: Command Virtqueue: Sessions})
> > >
> > > This reference does not resolve.
> > >
> > > > +to use the device and send V4L2 ioctls in order to receive more information
> > > > +about the device, such as supported formats or controls.
> > > > +\end{enumerate}
> > > > +
> > > > +\subsection{Device Operation}\label{sec:Device Types / Media Device / Device Operation}
> > > > +
> > > > +Commands are queued on the command queue by the driver for the device to
> > > > +process. The errors returned by each command are standard
> > > > +\href{https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/userspace-api/media/gen-errors.html}{Linux kernel error codes}.
> > > > +For instance, a command that contains invalid options will return \textit{EINVAL}.
> > > > +
> > > > +Events are sent on the event queue by the device for the driver to handle.
> > > > +
> > > > +\subsubsection{Command Virtqueue}
> > > > +
> > > > +\paragraph{Device Operation: Command headers}
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > > +#define VIRTIO_MEDIA_CMD_OPEN 1
> > > > +#define VIRTIO_MEDIA_CMD_CLOSE 2
> > > > +#define VIRTIO_MEDIA_CMD_IOCTL 3
> > > > +#define VIRTIO_MEDIA_CMD_MMAP 4
> > > > +#define VIRTIO_MEDIA_CMD_MUNMAP 5
> > > > +
> > > > +/* Header for all virtio commands from the driver to the device on the commandq. */
> > > > +struct virtio_media_cmd_header {
> > > > +       le32 cmd;
> > > > +       le32 __reserved;
> > > > +};
> > > > +
> > > > +/* Header for all virtio responses from the device to the driver on the commandq. */
> > > > +struct virtio_media_resp_header {
> > > > +       le32 status;
> > > > +       le32 __reserved;
> > > > +};
> > > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > > +
> > > > +A command consists of a command header \textit{virtio_media_cmd_header}
> > > > +containing the following device-readable field:
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{description}
> > > > +\item[\field{cmd}] specifies a device request type (VIRTIO_MEDIA_CMD_*).
> > > > +\end{description}
> > > > +
> > > > +A response consists of a response header \textit{virtio_media_resp_header}
> > > > +containing the following device-writable field:
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{description}
> > > > +\item[\field{status}] indicates a device request status.
> > > > +\end{description}
> > > > +
> > > > +The status field can take 0 if the command was successful, or one of the
> > > > +standard Linux error codes if it was not.
> > > > +
> > > > +\drivernormative{\paragraph}{Device Operation: Command Virtqueue: Sessions}{Device Types / Media Device / Device Operation / Command Virtqueue}
> > > > +
> > > > +Sessions are how the device is multiplexed, allowing several distinct works to
> > > > +take place simultaneously. Before start operating, the driver needs to open a
> > >
> > > nit: "Before starting operation" maybe?
> > >
> > > > +session. This is equivalent to opening the \textit{/dev/videoX} file of the
> > > > +V4L2 device. Each session gets a unique ID assigned, which can be then used
> > > > +to perform actions on it.
> > > > +
> > > > +\paragraph{Device Operation: Open device}
> > > > +
> > > > +\textbf{VIRTIO_MEDIA_CMD_OPEN} Command for creating a new session.
> > > > +
> > > > +This is the equivalent of calling \textit{open} on a V4L2 device node.
> > > > +The driver uses \textit{virtio_media_cmd_open} to send an open request.
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > > +struct virtio_media_cmd_open {
> > > > +    struct virtio_media_cmd_header hdr;
> > > > +};
> > > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > > +
> > > > +The device responds to \textit{VIRTIO_MEDIA_CMD_OPEN} with \textit{virtio_media_resp_open}.
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > > +struct virtio_media_resp_open {
> > > > +    struct virtio_media_resp_header hdr;
> > > > +    le32 session_id;
> > > > +    le32 __reserved;
> > > > +};
> > > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{description}
> > > > +\item[\field{session_id}] identifies the current session, which is used for
> > > > +other commands, predominantly ioctls.
> > > > +\end{description}
> > > > +
> > > > +\devicenormative{\subparagraph}{Device Operation: Open device}{Device Types / Media Device / Device Operation / Open device}
> > > > +
> > > > +Upon success, the device MUST set a \field{session_id} in \textit{virtio_media_resp_open}
> > > > +to an integer that is NOT used by any other open session.
> > > > +
> > > > +\paragraph{Device Operation: Close device}
> > > > +
> > > > +\textbf{VIRTIO_MEDIA_CMD_CLOSE} Command for closing an active session.
> > > > +
> > > > +This is the equivalent of calling \textit{close} on a previously opened V4L2
> > > > +device node. All resources associated with this session will be freed.
> > > > +
> > > > +This command does not require a response from the device.
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > > +struct virtio_media_cmd_close {
> > > > +    struct virtio_media_cmd_header hdr;
> > > > +    le32 session_id;
> > > > +    le32 __reserved;
> > > > +};
> > > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{description}
> > > > +\item[\field{session_id}] specifies an identifier for the session to close.
> > > > +\end{description}
> > > > +
> > > > +\drivernormative{\subparagraph}{Device Operation: Close device}{Device Types / Media Device / Device Operation / Close device}
> > > > +
> > > > +The session ID SHALL NOT be used again after queueing this command.
> > >
> > > ... until it has been obtained again through a subsequent
> > > VIRTIO_MEDIA_CMD_OPEN call. (session IDs can be recycled ; this should
> > > go without saying but it doesn't hurt to mention it)
> > >
> > > > +
> > > > +\paragraph{Device Operation: V4L2 ioctls}
> > > > +
> > > > +\textbf{VIRTIO_MEDIA_CMD_IOCTL} Command for executing an ioctl on an open
> > > > +session.
> > > > +
> > > > +This command tells the device to run one of the `VIDIOC_*` ioctls on the
> > > > +session identified by \textit{session_id}.
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > > +struct virtio_media_cmd_ioctl {
> > > > +    struct virtio_media_cmd_header hdr;
> > > > +    le32 session_id;
> > > > +    le32 code;
> > > > +    /* Followed by the relevant ioctl payload as defined in the macro */
> > >
> > > "ioctl command payload" maybe.
> > >
> > > > +};
> > > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{description}
> > > > +\item[\field{session_id}] identifies the session to run the ioctl on.
> > > > +\item[\field{code}] specifies the code of the \field{VIDIOC_*} ioctl to run.
> > > > +\end{description}
> > > > +
> > > > +The code is extracted from the
> > > > +\href{https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/userspace-api/media/v4l/videodev.html}{videodev2.h},
> > > > +header file. The file defines the ioctl's codes, type of payload, and
> > > > +direction. The code consists of the second argument of the \field{_IO*} macro.
> > > > +
> > > > +For example, the \textit{VIDIOC_G_FMT} is defined as follows:
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > > +#define VIDIOC_G_FMT _IOWR('V',  4, struct v4l2_format)
> > > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > > +
> > > > +This means that its ioctl code is \textit{4}, its payload is a
> > > > +\textit{struct v4l2_format}, and its direction is \textit{WR} (i.e., the
> > > > +payload is written by both the driver and the device).
> > > > +See Section \ref{sec:Device Types / Media Device / V4L2 ioctls / Ioctls payload}
> > > > +for more information about the direction of ioctls.
> > > > +Note that although most architectures use this format, there
> > > > +are some architecture-specific encoding differences.
> > > > +See \textit{include/ARCH/ioctl.h} for more details.
> > >
> > > Is the last sentence needed? videodev2.h is not architecture-specific,
> > > so I don't think this adds anything for our purpose?
> >
> > Probably not. The idea was to highlight that in some cases the payload
> > may vary depending on the underlying architecture for some
> > ioctls, due to these architecture differences.
> > But I agree that it is a detail that should not concern to those wanting to
> > implement the specs. So I will remove the lines.
>
> Thanks. My concern was that reader would try to find reasons to care
> about architecture when all they need to do is look at the ioctls
> declarations from videodev2.h and copy the second field.
>
> >
> > >
> > > > +
> > > > +The payload struct layout always matches the 64-bit, little-endian
> > > > +representation of the corresponding V4L2 structure. For most structs, the
> > > > +size is identical for both 32 and 64 bits versions. Otherwise, the driver
> > > > +must translate them to the aforementioned size and endianess.
> > > > +
> > > > +The device responds to \textit{VIRTIO_MEDIA_CMD_IOCTL} with \textit{virtio_media_resp_ioctl}.
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > > +struct virtio_media_resp_ioctl {
> > > > +    struct virtio_media_resp_header hdr;
> > > > +    /* Followed by the ioctl payload as defined in the macro */
> > >
> > > Similarly, "ioctl response payload"?
> > >
> > > > +};
> > > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > > +
> > > > +\subparagraph{Ioctls payload}\label{sec:Device Types / Media Device / V4L2 ioctls / Ioctls payload}
> > > > +
> > > > +Each ioctl has a payload, which is defined by the third argument of the
> > > > +\field{_IO*} macro.
> > > > +
> > > > +The payload of an ioctl in the descriptor chain follows the command structure,
> > > > +the response structure, or both depending on the direction:
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{itemize}
> > > > +\item \textbf{_IOR} is read-only for the driver, meaning the payload
> > > > +follows the response in the device-writable section of the descriptor chain.
> > > > +\item \textbf{_IOW} is read-only for the device, meaning the payload
> > > > +follows the command in the driver-writable section of the descriptor chain.
> > > > +\item \textbf{_IOWR} is writable by both the device and driver,
> > > > +meaning the payload must follow both the command in the driver-writable section
> > > > +of the descriptor chain, and the response in the device-writable section.
> > > > +\end{itemize}
> > > > +
> > > > +A common optimization for \textit{WR} ioctls is to provide the payload using
> > >
> > > s/common/possible? Unless this is indeed commonly used by other
> > > devices, but I doubt it.
> > >
> > > > +descriptors that both point to the same buffer. This mimics the behavior of
> > > > +V4L2 ioctls where the data is only passed once and used as both input and
> > > > +output by the kernel.
> > >
> > > That's actually something I'd like to confirm - is it ok to have the
> > > device-readable and device-writable descriptors point to the same
> > > memory? I don't see why it wouldn't, but in case this is a problem we
> > > may want to change this and update the driver accordingly.
>
> Thanks to Matias and Michael's confirmation it seems there is no problem
> doing this.
>
> > >
> > > > +
> > > > +\devicenormative{\subparagraph}{Device Operation: V4L2 ioctls}{Device Types / Media Device / Device Operation / V4L2 ioctls}
> > > > +
> > > > +In case of success of a device-writable ioctl, the device MUST always write the
> > > > +payload in the device-writable part of the descriptor chain.
> > > > +
> > > > +In case of failure of a device-writable ioctl, the device is free to write the
> > > > +payload in the device-writable part of the descriptor chain or not. Some errors
> > > > +may still result in the payload being updated, and in this case the device is
> > > > +expected to write the updated payload. If the device has not written the
> > > > +payload after an error (i.e., only the header is returned), the driver MUST
> > > > +assume that the payload has not been modified.
> > >
> > > This last sentence sounds like it is driver-normative, not device-normative.
> > >
> > > > +
> > > > +\subparagraph{Handling of pointers in ioctl payload}
> > > > +
> > > > +A few structures used as ioctl payloads contain pointers to further
> > > > +data needed for the ioctl. There are notably:
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{itemize}
> > > > +\item The \field{planes} pointer of
> > > > +\href{https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/userspace-api/media/v4l/buffer.html#struct-v4l2-buffer}{struct v4l2_buffer},
> > > > +which size is determined by the length member.
> > > > +\item The \field{controls} pointer of \textit{struct v4l2_ext_controls}, which
> > >
> > > Since `struct v4l2_buffer` above is a link, do we want to one for
> > > `struct v4l2_ext_controls` as well?
> > >
> > > > +size is determined by the count member.
> > > > +\end{itemize}
> > > > +
> > > > +If the size of the pointed area is determined to be non-zero, then the main
> > >
> > > nit: "If the size of the pointed area is non-zero, ..."
> > >
> > > > +payload is immediately followed by the pointed data in their order of
> > > > +appearance in the structure, and the pointer value itself is ignored by the
> > > > +device, which must also return the value initially passed by the driver.
> > > > +
> > > > +\subparagraph{Handling of pointers to userspace memory}
> > >
> > > s/userspace/guest ?
> >
> > To me this refers to the fact that the original fields in the related
> > structures refer to userspace memory (outside of the host/guest
> > context). I think I'd keep it as is.
> >
> > Maybe changing the titles of this and the previous sections to:
> > \subparagraph{Handling of pointers to data in ioctl payload}
> > and
> > \subparagraph{Handling of pointers to userspace memory in ioctl payload}
> >
> > wdyt?
>
> Sounds good to me.
>
> >
> > >
> > > I'd also suggest adding a "(SHARED_PAGES memory type)" at the end of
> > > the title to make it explicit that this is specific to this particular
> > > memory type.
> >
> > Maybe a clarification in the first paragraph (and a link to the related
> > section) would be enough? I feel having a memory type in the title when
> > this concept has not been yet introduced may be confusing. Having that
> > in the text allows to link the section and jump ahead to relate both concepts.
>
> Agreed, a clarification in the text is probably better for providing
> context.
>
> >
> > >
> > > > +\label{sec:Device Types / Media Device / V4L2 ioctls / Userspace memory}
> > > > +
> > > > +A few pointers are special in that they point to userspace memory in the
> > > > +original V4L2 specification. They are:
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{itemize}
> > > > +\item The \field{m.userptr} member of \textit{struct v4l2_buffer} and
> > > > +\href{https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/userspace-api/media/v4l/buffer.html#struct-v4l2-plane}{struct v4l2_plane}
> > > > +(technically an unsigned long, but designated a userspace address).
> > > > +\item The \field{ptr} member of \textit{struct v4l2_ext_ctrl}.
> > > > +\end{itemize}
> > >
> > > Same as above, let's either add links to all V4L2 structs, or just
> > > remove them altogether since we point to the documentation in the
> > > introduction anyway.
> >
> > I added the link for your comment above, but I think with that change,
> > this is ok as it is. I only add the link to those structs that have
> > not been linked before.
> >
> > >
> > > > +
> > > > +These pointers can cover large areas of scattered memory, which has the
> > > > +potential to require more descriptors than the virtio queue can provide. For
> > > > +these particular pointers only, a list of \textit{struct virtio_media_sg_entry}
> > > > +that covers the needed amount of memory for the pointer is used instead of
> > > > +using descriptors to map the pointed memory directly.
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > > +struct virtio_media_sg_entry {
> > > > +       le64 start;
> > > > +       le32 len;
> > > > +       le32 __reserved;
> > > > +};
> > > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > > +
> > > > +For each such pointer to read, the device reads as many SG entries as needed
> > > > +to cover the length of the pointed buffer, as described by its parent
> > > > +structure (\field{length} member of \textit{struct v4l2_buffer} or
> > > > +\textit{struct v4l2_plane} for buffer memory, and \field{size} member of
> > > > +\textit{struct v4l2_ext_control} for control data).
> > > > +
> > > > +Since the device never needs to modify the list of SG entries, it is only
> > > > +provided by the driver in the device-readable section of the descriptor chain,
> > > > +and not repeated in the device-writable section, even for WR ioctls.
> > > > +
> > > > +\subparagraph{Unsupported ioctls}
> > > > +
> > > > +A few ioctls are replaced by other, more suitable mechanisms.
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{itemize}
> > > > +\item \textit{VIDIOC_QUERYCAP} is replaced by reading the configuration area
> > > > +(see \ref{sec:Device Types / Media Device / Device Configuration Layout}).
> > > > +\item \textit{VIDIOC_DQBUF} is replaced by a dedicated event
> > > > +(see \ref{sec:Device Types / Media Device / Device Operation / Dequeue buffer}).
> > > > +\item \textit{VIDIOC_DQEVENT} is replaced by a dedicated event
> > > > +(see \ref{sec:Device Types / Media Device / Device Operation / Emit an event}).
> > > > +\item \textit{VIDIOC_G_JPEGCOMP} and \textit{VIDIOC_S_JPEGCOMP} are deprecated
> > > > +and replaced by the controls of the JPEG class.
> > > > +\item \textit{VIDIOC_LOG_STATUS} is a driver-only operation and shall not be
> > > > +implemented by the device.
> > > > +\end{itemize}
> > > > +
> > > > +\devicenormative{\subparagraph}{Device Operation: Unsupported ioctls}{Device Types / Media Device / Device Operation / Unsupported ioctls}
> > > > +
> > > > +When a request is not supported, the device MUST return \textit{ENOTTY},
> > > > +which corresponds with the response for unknown ioctls.
> > >
> > > s/with/to
> > >
> > > > +
> > > > +\paragraph{Device Operation: Mapping a MMAP buffer}
> > > > +
> > > > +\textbf{VIRTIO_MEDIA_CMD_MMAP} Command for mapping a MMAP buffer into the
> > > > +driver's address space.
> > > > +
> > > > +Shared memory region ID 0 is used to map MMAP buffers with
> > > > +the \textit{VIRTIO_MEDIA_CMD_MMAP} command.
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > > +#define VIRTIO_MEDIA_MMAP_FLAG_RW (1 << 0)
> > > > +
> > > > +struct virtio_media_cmd_mmap {
> > > > +       struct virtio_media_cmd_header hdr;
> > > > +       le32 session_id;
> > >
> > > session_id is not mentioned in the member description below.
> > >
> > > > +       le32 flags;
> > > > +       le32 offset;
> > > > +};
> > > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{description}
> > > > +\item[\field{flags}] is the set of flags for the mapping. \field{VIRTIO_MEDIA_MMAP_FLAG_RW}
> > > > +can be set if a read-write mapping is desired. Without this flag the mapping
> > > > +will be read-only.
> > > > +\item[\field{offset}] corresponds to the \field{mem_offset} field of the
> > > > +\textit{union v4l2_plane} for the plane to map. This field can be obtained
> > > > +using the \textit{VIDIOC_QUERYBUF} ioctl.
> > > > +\end{description}
> > > > +
> > > > +The device responds to \textit{VIRTIO_MEDIA_CMD_MMAP} with \textit{virtio_media_resp_mmap}.
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > > +struct virtio_media_resp_mmap {
> > > > +    struct virtio_media_resp_header hdr;
> > > > +    le64 driver_addr;
> > > > +    le64 len;
> > > > +};
> > > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{description}
> > > > +\item[\field{driver_addr}] offset into SHM region ID 0 of the start of the mapping.
> > > > +\item[\field{len}] length of the mapping as indicated by the \textit{struct v4l2_plane}
> > > > +the buffer belongs to.
> > >
> > > This makes me think: do we need to return the length of the mapping
> > > when we already know the length of the v4l2_plane and we only map
> > > whole buffers? It probably doesn't hurt to repeat that information
> > > here but maybe that's something we can optimize out?
> >
> > That's a good point. Indeed, no partial mapping should be allowed, so
> > the length field does sound a bit redundant. Unless it needs error
> > checking, which probably does not, I think it can be skipped. I'll do
> > for the next version. Thanks!
>
> Thanks - I will make sure to update the driver and devices as well to
> confirm this doesn't introduce any issue in practice.

So after trying to update the code to remove the length field, I have
come to the conclusion that it is useful after all.

While it is true that the returned length of the mapping will always be
equal to the length of the buffer, the semantics of mmap require that we
check that the mapped area fits inside the requested VMA, and in order
to do so we need the length of the mapping.

Why can't we use the length of the buffer, since it is the same value?
The driver doesn't know that length until a QUERYBUF ioctl is performed,
and although it is almost certain that the user will do a QUERYBUF ->
mmap in practice (if only to obtain the offset to use as a mmap
parameter), there is no formal guarantee of this, and doing so would
require some caching mechanism that is a bit more complex than what I am
comfortable putting in a kernel driver if it is not absolutely
necessary.

So we should keep this `len` parameter, and maybe just add a
device-normative paragraph stating that it must always be equal to the
length of the buffer.

Thanks,
Alex.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-17  5:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-07 15:49 [PATCH v4 0/1] virtio-media: Add device specification Albert Esteve
2024-11-07 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 1/1] virtio-media: Add virtio media " Albert Esteve
2024-12-03  9:35   ` Matias Ezequiel Vara Larsen
2025-01-07 13:12     ` Albert Esteve
2025-01-09 18:57       ` Matias Ezequiel Vara Larsen
2025-01-09 23:14         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-01-10  8:04           ` Albert Esteve
     [not found]   ` <CAPBb6MVDgdBiqV0J4DXKX2u-KKpBs+119X7obNFsDpKjH0iarg@mail.gmail.com>
2025-01-07 16:25     ` Albert Esteve
2025-01-08  9:48       ` Albert Esteve
2025-01-10  9:46         ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-01-17  5:46           ` Alexandre Courbot [this message]
2025-01-17 15:20             ` Albert Esteve

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