From: "Nicolas Escande" <nico.escande@gmail.com>
To: "Vasanthakumar Thiagarajan" <quic_vthiagar@quicinc.com>,
<ath11k@lists.infradead.org>,
"Sven Eckelmann" <se@simonwunderlich.de>
Cc: <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
"Steffen Moser" <lists@steffen-moser.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "ath11k: clear the keys properly via DISABLE_KEY"
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 16:30:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D770AVPQZXIW.26SXMNNQTQ1PZ@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20e0a239-3d23-473b-5bc8-41bc25a64088@quicinc.com>
On Sat Jan 18, 2025 at 11:29 AM CET, Vasanthakumar Thiagarajan wrote:
> Hi Nicolas,
>
> On 1/18/2025 12:44 AM, Nicolas Escande wrote:
> > This reverts commit 436a4e88659842a7cf634d7cc088c8f2cc94ebf5.
> >
> > This as been reported by multiple people [0] that with this commit,
> > broadcast packets were not being delivered after GTK exchange.
> > Qualcomm seems to have a similar patch [1] confirming the issue.
> >
>
> This will re-open https://www.spinics.net/lists/hostap/msg08921.html
> reported by Sven. The recommended ath firmware ABI during GTK re-keying
> is SET_KEY instead of current DEL_KEY followed by SET_KEY. We are looking
> at other options like some marking by mac80211 for the driver to be able
> to identify if the received DEL_KEY is for re-keying. Also I'm curious
> if roaming between secure and non-secure mode is a critical use case.
> If not, we can probably go ahead with this revert as temporary WAR,
> @Sven?
>
> Vasanth
Yes, indeed it will make the original problem appear once again.
But from my standpoint, switching from encrypted to unencrypted traffic with a
config reload (without an interface restart) is not so frequent of a usecase.
On the otherhand, GTK rekeying is much more frequent. Like once per day with
hostapd's default parameters. And from our tests it fails around 1/4 of the time
with ath11k. So for every 4 days of operations of an AP running the unreverted
code, you won't have broadcast working for one of them...
I would really like a proper fix from QCA, but in the meantime it seems best to
revert it IMHO.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-20 15:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-17 19:14 [PATCH] Revert "ath11k: clear the keys properly via DISABLE_KEY" Nicolas Escande
2025-01-18 10:29 ` Vasanthakumar Thiagarajan
2025-01-20 15:30 ` Nicolas Escande [this message]
2025-05-04 12:36 ` Nicolas Escande
2025-05-06 9:19 ` Vasanthakumar Thiagarajan
2025-06-27 7:31 ` Nicolas Escande
2025-06-30 4:12 ` Vasanthakumar Thiagarajan
2025-08-11 23:34 ` Jeff Johnson
2025-08-12 12:44 ` Nicolas Escande
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