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From: "Alejandro Vallejo" <alejandro.vallejo@cloud.com>
To: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Cc: <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	"Jan Beulich" <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"Anthony PERARD" <anthony.perard@vates.tech>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] tools/hvmloader: Decouple APIC IDs from vCPU IDs
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2025 18:42:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D7DXEC0N45CT.2JHUHP1XAVB5F@cloud.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z5kXq2RehzyFEYqA@macbook.local>

On Tue Jan 28, 2025 at 5:45 PM GMT, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 04:33:39PM +0000, Alejandro Vallejo wrote:
> > The hypervisor, hvmloader and the toolstack currently engage in a shared
> > assumption that for every vCPU apicid == 2 * vcpuid. This series removes such
> > assumption from hvmloader, by making it read the APIC ID of each vCPU and
> > storing it for later use.
> > 
> > The last patch prevents writing an MP Tables should we have vCPUs that can not
> > be represented there. That's at the moment dead code because all vCPUs are
> > currently representable in 8 bits. This will inavitably stop being true in the
> > future after we increase the maximum number of guest vCPUs.
>
> While I'm fine with the MP Table change, should it also come together
> with a patch that introduces the code to create x2APIC entries in
> libacpi construct_madt() helper? (and bumping the MADT revision, as
> I'm quite sure version 2 didn't have x2APIC entries in the
> specification).

That's a lot more involved though. Matt started something in that direction
last year, but testing it was (and still is) effectively impossible until
HVM_MAX_VCPUS increases.

  https://lore.kernel.org/xen-devel/cd1a3ce14790af8c1bb4372ef0be5a6cbbb50b1c.1710338145.git.matthew.barnes@cloud.com/

The rest of the topo series can be used to test that (with a hack to
artificially bump the width of thread_id space), I'd rather not test a patch
with a long and still uncommitted series.

>
> Otherwise the MP Table change seems like a red herring, because the
> MADT created by libacpi will also be incorrect and APIC IDs will wrap in
> local APIC entries, just like it would on MP Tables.
>
> Thanks, Roger.

My take is that this is strictly better than what we have today by virtue of
going down from 2 latent bugs to just 1. That said, I don't strictly need it
for the topo series to advance, so it is (in a sense) optional.

A second approach is to gate things differently by preventing legacy BIOS
domains from having APs with APIC IDs >= 255 at all. OVMF already has MP and
$PIR tables disabled, from what I can see in hvmloader.

Cheers,
Alejandro


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-28 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-28 16:33 [PATCH 0/3] tools/hvmloader: Decouple APIC IDs from vCPU IDs Alejandro Vallejo
2025-01-28 16:33 ` [PATCH 1/3] tools/hvmloader: Retrieve (x2)APIC IDs from the APs themselves Alejandro Vallejo
2025-01-28 17:59   ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-01-28 18:45     ` Alejandro Vallejo
2025-01-28 16:33 ` [PATCH 2/3] tools/hvmloader: Replace LAPIC_ID() with cpu_to_apicid[] Alejandro Vallejo
2025-01-30 12:59   ` Jan Beulich
2025-01-28 16:33 ` [PATCH 3/3] tools/hvmloader: Skip writing MP tables if any CPU has an APIC ID >= 255 Alejandro Vallejo
2025-01-30 13:02   ` Jan Beulich
2025-01-28 17:45 ` [PATCH 0/3] tools/hvmloader: Decouple APIC IDs from vCPU IDs Roger Pau Monné
2025-01-28 18:42   ` Alejandro Vallejo [this message]
2025-01-29 16:25     ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-01-30  9:17       ` Jan Beulich
2025-02-04 14:26         ` Alejandro Vallejo

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