From: "Alejandro Vallejo" <alejandro.vallejo@cloud.com>
To: "Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
"Jan Beulich" <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
"Anthony PERARD" <anthony.perard@vates.tech>,
"Michal Orzel" <michal.orzel@amd.com>,
"Julien Grall" <julien@xen.org>,
"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xen/page_alloc: Simplify domain_adjust_tot_pages
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 14:39:47 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D83B0QPWLN57.2MVDIUO8O3U3@cloud.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c3f14dfb-65c4-47f8-ab81-8477da9b11c2@citrix.com>
On Wed Feb 26, 2025 at 4:51 PM GMT, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 26/02/2025 4:42 pm, Jan Beulich wrote:
> > On 26.02.2025 17:34, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> >> On 26/02/2025 4:06 pm, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>> On 26.02.2025 17:04, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 03:36:33PM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>>>> On 26.02.2025 15:28, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 03:08:33PM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 26.02.2025 14:56, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 01:27:24PM +0000, Alejandro Vallejo wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> --- a/xen/common/page_alloc.c
> >>>>>>>>> +++ b/xen/common/page_alloc.c
> >>>>>>>>> @@ -490,13 +490,11 @@ static long outstanding_claims; /* total outstanding claims by all domains */
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> unsigned long domain_adjust_tot_pages(struct domain *d, long pages)
> >>>>>>>>> {
> >>>>>>>>> - long dom_before, dom_after, dom_claimed, sys_before, sys_after;
> >>>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>> ASSERT(rspin_is_locked(&d->page_alloc_lock));
> >>>>>>>>> d->tot_pages += pages;
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> /*
> >>>>>>>>> - * can test d->claimed_pages race-free because it can only change
> >>>>>>>>> + * can test d->outstanding_pages race-free because it can only change
> >>>>>>>>> * if d->page_alloc_lock and heap_lock are both held, see also
> >>>>>>>>> * domain_set_outstanding_pages below
> >>>>>>>>> */
> >>>>>>>>> @@ -504,17 +502,16 @@ unsigned long domain_adjust_tot_pages(struct domain *d, long pages)
> >>>>>>>>> goto out;
> >>>>>>>> I think you can probably short-circuit the logic below if pages == 0?
> >>>>>>>> (and avoid taking the heap_lock)
> >>>>>>> Are there callers passing in 0?
> >>>>>> Not sure, but if there are no callers expected we might add an ASSERT
> >>>>>> to that effect then.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> spin_lock(&heap_lock);
> >>>>>>>>> - /* adjust domain outstanding pages; may not go negative */
> >>>>>>>>> - dom_before = d->outstanding_pages;
> >>>>>>>>> - dom_after = dom_before - pages;
> >>>>>>>>> - BUG_ON(dom_before < 0);
> >>>>>>>>> - dom_claimed = dom_after < 0 ? 0 : dom_after;
> >>>>>>>>> - d->outstanding_pages = dom_claimed;
> >>>>>>>>> - /* flag accounting bug if system outstanding_claims would go negative */
> >>>>>>>>> - sys_before = outstanding_claims;
> >>>>>>>>> - sys_after = sys_before - (dom_before - dom_claimed);
> >>>>>>>>> - BUG_ON(sys_after < 0);
> >>>>>>>>> - outstanding_claims = sys_after;
> >>>>>>>>> + BUG_ON(outstanding_claims < d->outstanding_pages);
> >>>>>>>>> + if ( pages > 0 && d->outstanding_pages < pages )
> >>>>>>>>> + {
> >>>>>>>>> + /* `pages` exceeds the domain's outstanding count. Zero it out. */
> >>>>>>>>> + outstanding_claims -= d->outstanding_pages;
> >>>>>>>>> + d->outstanding_pages = 0;
> >>>>>>>>> + } else {
> >>>>>>>>> + outstanding_claims -= pages;
> >>>>>>>>> + d->outstanding_pages -= pages;
> >>>>>>>> I wonder if it's intentional for a pages < 0 value to modify
> >>>>>>>> outstanding_claims and d->outstanding_pages, I think those values
> >>>>>>>> should only be set from domain_set_outstanding_pages().
> >>>>>>>> domain_adjust_tot_pages() should only decrease the value, but never
> >>>>>>>> increase either outstanding_claims or d->outstanding_pages.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> At best the behavior is inconsistent, because once
> >>>>>>>> d->outstanding_pages reaches 0 there will be no further modification
> >>>>>>>> from domain_adjust_tot_pages().
> >>>>>>> Right, at that point the claim has run out. While freeing pages with an
> >>>>>>> active claim means that the claim gets bigger (which naturally needs
> >>>>>>> reflecting in the global).
> >>>>>> domain_adjust_tot_pages() is not exclusively called when freeing
> >>>>>> pages, see steal_page() for example.
> >>>>> Or also when pages were allocated. steal_page() ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> When called from steal_page() it's wrong to increase the claim, as
> >>>>>> it assumes that the page removed from d->tot_pages is freed, but
> >>>>>> that's not the case. The domain might end up in a situation where
> >>>>>> the claim is bigger than the available amount of memory.
> >>>>> ... is a case that likely wasn't considered when the feature was added.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I never really liked this; I'd be quite happy to see it ripped out, as
> >>>>> long as we'd be reasonably certain it isn't in active use by people.
> >>>> What do you mean with 'it' in the above sentence, the whole claim
> >>>> stuff?
> >>> Yes.
> >>>
> >>>> Or just getting rid of allowing the claim to increase as a
> >>>> result of pages being removed from a domain?
> >>> No.
> >> Alejandro and I discussed this earlier in the week.
> >>
> >> The claim infrastructure stuff is critical for a toolstack capable of
> >> doing things in parallel.
> >>
> >> However, it is also nonsensical for there to be a remaining claim by the
> >> time domain construction is done.
> > I'm not entirely sure about this. Iirc it was the tmem work where this was
> > added, and then pretty certainly it was needed also for already running
> > domains.
>
> It wasn't TMEM. It was generally large-memory VMs.
>
> The problem is if you've got 2x 2T VMs booting on a 3T system.
>
> Previously, you'd start building both of them, and minutes later they
> both fail because Xen was fully out of memory.
>
> Claim was introduced to atomically reserve the memory you were intending
> to build a domain with.
>
> For XenServer, we're working on NUMA fixes, and something that's
> important there is to be able to reserve memory on a specific NUMA node
> (hence why this is all getting looked at).
> >> If creation_finished were a concrete thing, rather than a bodge hacked
> >> into domain_unpause_by_systemcontroller(), it ought to be made to fail
> >> if there were an outstanding claim. I suggested that we follow through
> >> on a previous suggestion of making it a real hypercall (which is needed
> >> by the encrypted VM crowd too).
> > Rather than failing we could simply zap the leftover?
>
> Hmm. Perhaps.
>
> I'd be slightly wary about zapping a claim, but there should only be an
> outstanding claim if the toolstack did something wrong.
>
> OTOH, we absolutely definitely do need a real hypercall here at some
> point soon.
>
> ~Andrew
It should probably be removed at the end. Otherwise we're effectively leaking
all claimed but non-used memory for the lifetime of the domain.
Cheers,
Alejandro
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-27 14:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-24 13:27 [PATCH] xen/page_alloc: Simplify domain_adjust_tot_pages Alejandro Vallejo
2025-02-24 14:49 ` Alejandro Vallejo
2025-02-26 14:05 ` Jan Beulich
2025-02-27 14:36 ` Alejandro Vallejo
2025-03-05 10:49 ` Jan Beulich
2025-03-05 13:22 ` Alejandro Vallejo
2025-03-05 13:39 ` Jan Beulich
2025-03-05 14:55 ` Alejandro Vallejo
2025-03-11 9:46 ` Alejandro Vallejo
2025-03-11 10:06 ` Jan Beulich
2025-02-26 14:18 ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-02-26 13:56 ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-02-26 14:08 ` Jan Beulich
2025-02-26 14:28 ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-02-26 14:36 ` Jan Beulich
2025-02-26 16:04 ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-02-26 16:06 ` Jan Beulich
2025-02-26 16:34 ` Andrew Cooper
2025-02-26 16:42 ` Jan Beulich
2025-02-26 16:51 ` Andrew Cooper
2025-02-27 14:39 ` Alejandro Vallejo [this message]
2025-02-27 14:50 ` Alejandro Vallejo
2025-03-05 10:50 ` Jan Beulich
2025-02-26 14:02 ` Jan Beulich
2025-02-27 14:59 ` Alejandro Vallejo
2025-03-05 10:52 ` Jan Beulich
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