From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CBDC54E65 for ; Thu, 22 May 2025 09:46:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (relay3-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.195]) by mx.groups.io with SMTP id smtpd.web11.20337.1747907170247652587 for ; Thu, 22 May 2025 02:46:10 -0700 Authentication-Results: mx.groups.io; dkim=pass header.i=@bootlin.com header.s=gm1 header.b=myEJ506F; spf=pass (domain: bootlin.com, ip: 217.70.183.195, mailfrom: antonin.godard@bootlin.com) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1EBB01FCF7; Thu, 22 May 2025 09:46:07 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bootlin.com; s=gm1; t=1747907168; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=TP4rP3jcbZNbhsyrBkAJFBogoFwcV5o5F03DtIrbS2Y=; b=myEJ506F67hZj5jYGYMG1V8sJA/fU2EKWW/lzxwNKJnqyUwQzicuTcLqv5mHQeW9K8H3Cd NTmxntQ4UibcKDQxHQZkwDCgQPH7q7A9son2DVO4Xl4T92JClseshaIzDhBRv+PIHb2rgD MWD3PxogulQ+Xx4HVskPoVsh7WrUcHebldP5EmQvQllQ4Of6eI5dlNU0XsXWlib0KxVHYG kUsznd4i8MDFuu7OVFnJvwSL47fpdsgPBVoTZKwe5VgW8sYNmv1ehnk0g3Q1d+KQ0iPYQ8 lJfR2gghSzoY48fVzZl0AYtzOtHMDeesjNJ84YzhFmAzaRz6Uy1Mb8uxfhqy9g== Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 11:46:06 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: [docs] [PATCH v2 12/12] migration-guides/release-notes-5.2: update for upcoming 5.2 release Cc: "yocto@pengutronix.de" , "thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com" From: "Antonin Godard" To: "Sverdlin, Alexander" , "ejo@pengutronix.de" , "docs@lists.yoctoproject.org" References: <20250325-release-note-5-2-updates-v2-0-19f050d61da3@bootlin.com> <20250325-release-note-5-2-updates-v2-12-19f050d61da3@bootlin.com> <08183d24de0d86a03d25c13dc01166389ebfe5ad.camel@pengutronix.de> <19948ea8255497b0c3979364e4e7c485695863d2.camel@siemens.com> In-Reply-To: <19948ea8255497b0c3979364e4e7c485695863d2.camel@siemens.com> X-GND-State: clean X-GND-Score: -100 X-GND-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeffedrtddtgdehieefucdltddurdegfedvrddttddmucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuifetpfffkfdpucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddunecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpegggfgtfffkufevhffvfhgjsehtqhertddttdejnecuhfhrohhmpedftehnthhonhhinhcuifhouggrrhgufdcuoegrnhhtohhnihhnrdhgohgurghrugessghoohhtlhhinhdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepffehkeeuteetkeeufeejjeevveduuddtgfeuteeiveekjeegjeegteeuveekfedunecuffhomhgrihhnpegsohhothhlihhnrdgtohhmnecukfhppedvrgdtudemtggsudegmeehheeimeejrgdttdemudejtgdvmeefkeejrgemfheiheemhedvfeehnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehinhgvthepvdgrtddumegtsgdugeemheehieemjegrtddtmedujegtvdemfeekjegrmehfieehmeehvdefhedphhgvlhhopehlohgtrghlhhhoshhtpdhmrghilhhfrhhomheprghnthhonhhinhdrghhouggrrhgusegsohhothhlihhnrdgtohhmpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopeehpdhrtghpthhtoheprghlvgigrghnuggvrhdrshhvvghrughlihhnsehsihgvmhgvnhhsrdgtohhmpdhrtghpthhtohepvghjohesphgvnhhguhhtrhhonhhigidruggvpdhrtghpt hhtohepughotghssehlihhsthhsrdihohgtthhophhrohhjvggtthdrohhrghdprhgtphhtthhopeihohgtthhosehpvghnghhuthhrohhnihigrdguvgdprhgtphhtthhopehthhhomhgrshdrphgvthgriiiiohhnihessghoohhtlhhinhdrtghomh X-GND-Sasl: antonin.godard@bootlin.com List-Id: X-Webhook-Received: from li982-79.members.linode.com [45.33.32.79] by aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org with HTTPS for ; Thu, 22 May 2025 09:46:18 -0000 X-Groupsio-URL: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/message/6875 On Thu May 15, 2025 at 2:33 PM CEST, Alexander Sverdlin wrote: > Hi Enrico! > > On Mon, 2025-04-14 at 13:12 +0200, Enrico J=C3=B6rns wrote: >> > -=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 ``bluez``: fix mesh build when building with mus= l. >> > +=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 ``systemd``: >> > + >> > +=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 set better sane time at startu= p by creating the ``clock-epoch`` file in >> > +=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ``${libdir}`` if the= ``set-time-epoch`` :term:`PACKAGECONFIG` config is >> > +=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 set. >> > + >> > +=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 really disable Predictable Net= work Interface names if the ``pni-names`` >> > +=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 feature is not part = of :term:`DISTRO_FEATURES`. Previously it was only >> > +=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 really disable for Q= EMU machines. >>=20 >> ( s/disable/disabled/ ) >>=20 >> Quick question: My understanding (and observation) is that not having 'p= ni-names' set in >> DISTRO_FEATURES (which will be the default for almost everyone) will cha= nge the network naming to >> 'non predictable' now, correct? >> For me, this is quite unexpected and requires me to add 'pni-name' to ke= ep the original behavior. >> Shouldn't we then at least add this as a hint to the migration notes? > > Thanks for pointing this out! > I'm sorry this came as a surprise! The reason I didn't think about > preserving the legacy behaviour is that the behaviour itself was inconsis= tent (QEMU vs the rest). > > Do you think we should add "pni-names" to the default systemd PACKAGECONF= IG now as a follow-up patch? Hi Alexander, I don't have a strong opinion on this, but I think the best way to get an a= nswer to that question is to send the patch on OE-Core and wait for feedback, as = you won't get much traction on the docs list. :) Thanks, Antonin --=20 Antonin Godard, Bootlin Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering https://bootlin.com