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[89.103.73.235]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5b1f17b1804b1-447f73d4a3csm134133475e9.22.2025.05.23.00.17.35 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 23 May 2025 00:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: kvm@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Fri, 23 May 2025 09:17:34 +0200 Message-Id: From: =?utf-8?q?Radim_Kr=C4=8Dm=C3=A1=C5=99?= Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] RISC-V: KVM: VCPU reset fixes Cc: , , , "Anup Patel" , "Atish Patra" , "Paul Walmsley" , "Palmer Dabbelt" , "Albert Ou" , "Alexandre Ghiti" , "Andrew Jones" To: "Atish Patra" , References: <20250515143723.2450630-4-rkrcmar@ventanamicro.com> <1a7a81fd-cf15-4b54-a805-32d66ced4517@linux.dev> In-Reply-To: <1a7a81fd-cf15-4b54-a805-32d66ced4517@linux.dev> 2025-05-22T14:43:40-07:00, Atish Patra : > On 5/15/25 7:37 AM, Radim Kr=C3=84m=C3=83=C2=A1=C3=85 wrote: >> Hello, >>=20 >> the design still requires a discussion. >>=20 >> [v3 1/2] removes most of the additional changes that the KVM capability >> was doing in v2. [v3 2/2] is new and previews a general solution to the >> lack of userspace control over KVM SBI. >>=20 > > I am still missing the motivation behind it. If the motivation is SBI=20 > HSM suspend, the PATCH2 doesn't achieve that as it forwards every call=20 > to the user space. Why do you want to control hsm start/stop from the=20 > user space ? HSM needs fixing, because KVM doesn't know what the state after sbi_hart_start should be. For example, we had a discussion about scounteren and regardless of what default we choose in KVM, the userspace might want a different value. I don't think that HSM start/stop is a hot path, so trapping to userspace seems better than adding more kernel code. Forwarding all the unimplemented SBI ecalls shouldn't be a performance issue, because S-mode software would hopefully learn after the first error and stop trying again. Allowing userspace to fully implement the ecall instruction one of the motivations as well -- SBI is not a part of RISC-V ISA, so someone might be interested in accelerating a different M-mode software with KVM. I'll send v4 later today -- there is a missing part in [2/2], because userspace also needs to be able to emulate the base SBI extension. 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