From: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
To: "Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
lkmm@lists.linux.dev, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
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"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
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"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
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"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
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"Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
"Mitchell Levy" <levymitchell0@gmail.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 05/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add atomic {cmp,}xchg operations
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2025 17:50:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DAZZJTOR5N3G.1ZC2DWWPP2YM5@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aGKsHZ0saC-XkQlA@tardis-2.local>
On Mon Jun 30, 2025 at 5:24 PM CEST, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 10:00:34AM +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
>> On Sat Jun 28, 2025 at 9:31 AM CEST, Boqun Feng wrote:
>> > On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 08:12:42AM +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
>> >> On Fri Jun 27, 2025 at 3:53 PM CEST, Boqun Feng wrote:
>> >> > As for naming, the reason I choose xchg() and cmpxchg() is because they
>> >> > are the name LKMM uses for a long time, to use another name, we have to
>> >> > have a very good reason to do so and I don't see a good reason
>> >> > that the other names are better, especially, in our memory model, we use
>> >> > xchg() and cmpxchg() a lot, and they are different than Rust version
>> >> > where you can specify orderings separately. Naming LKMM xchg()/cmpxchg()
>> >> > would cause more confusion I believe.
>> >>
>> >> I'm just not used to the name shortening from the kernel... I think it's
>> >
>> > I guess it's a bit curse of knowledge from my side...
>> >
>> >> fine to use them especially since the ordering parameters differ from
>> >> std's atomics.
>> >>
>> >> Can you add aliases for the Rust names?
>> >>
>> >
>> > I can, but I also want to see a real user request ;-) As a bi-model user
>> > myself, I generally don't mind the name, as you can see C++ and Rust use
>> > different names as well, what I usually do is just "tell me what's the
>> > name of the function if I need to do this" ;-)
>>
>> I think learning Rust in the kernel is different from learning a new
>> language. Yes you're learning a specific dialect of Rust, but that's
>> what every project does.
>>
>> You also added aliases for the C versions, so let's also add the Rust
>> ones :)
>>
>
> Make senses, so added:
>
> --- a/rust/kernel/sync/atomic/generic.rs
> +++ b/rust/kernel/sync/atomic/generic.rs
> @@ -310,7 +310,7 @@ impl<T: AllowAtomic> Atomic<T>
> /// assert_eq!(42, x.xchg(52, Acquire));
> /// assert_eq!(52, x.load(Relaxed));
> /// ```
> - #[doc(alias("atomic_xchg", "atomic64_xchg"))]
> + #[doc(alias("atomic_xchg", "atomic64_xchg", "swap"))]
> #[inline(always)]
> pub fn xchg<Ordering: Any>(&self, v: T, _: Ordering) -> T {
> let v = T::into_repr(v);
> @@ -382,6 +382,7 @@ pub fn xchg<Ordering: Any>(&self, v: T, _: Ordering) -> T {
> "atomic64_cmpxchg",
> "atomic_try_cmpxchg",
> "atomic64_try_cmpxchg"
> + "compare_exchange"
> ))]
> #[inline(always)]
> pub fn cmpxchg<Ordering: Any>(&self, mut old: T, new: T, o: Ordering) -> Result<T, T> {
>
> Seems good?
Yeah, thanks!
---
Cheers,
Benno
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-30 15:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-18 16:49 [PATCH v5 00/10] LKMM generic atomics in Rust Boqun Feng
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 01/10] rust: Introduce atomic API helpers Boqun Feng
2025-06-26 8:44 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-27 14:00 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] rust: sync: Add basic atomic operation mapping framework Boqun Feng
2025-06-26 8:50 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-26 10:17 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-27 14:30 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 03/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add ordering annotation types Boqun Feng
2025-06-19 10:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19 12:19 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-19 13:29 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-19 14:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19 15:00 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-19 15:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19 15:15 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-19 18:04 ` Alan Stern
2025-06-21 11:18 ` Gary Guo
2025-06-23 2:48 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-26 12:36 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-27 14:34 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-27 14:44 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add generic atomics Boqun Feng
2025-06-21 11:32 ` Gary Guo
2025-06-23 5:19 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 11:54 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 12:58 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 18:30 ` Gary Guo
2025-06-23 19:09 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 23:27 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-24 16:35 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-26 13:54 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-04 21:22 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-04 22:05 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-04 22:30 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-04 22:49 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-04 23:21 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-04 20:25 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-04 20:45 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-04 21:17 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-04 22:38 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-04 23:21 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-05 8:04 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-05 15:38 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-05 21:43 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-26 12:15 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-27 15:01 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-30 9:52 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-30 14:44 ` Alan Stern
2025-07-01 8:54 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-01 14:50 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-02 8:33 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add atomic {cmp,}xchg operations Boqun Feng
2025-06-21 11:37 ` Gary Guo
2025-06-23 5:23 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-26 13:12 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-28 3:03 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-30 10:16 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-30 14:51 ` Alan Stern
2025-06-30 15:12 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-27 8:58 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-27 13:53 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-28 6:12 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-28 7:31 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-28 8:00 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-30 15:24 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-30 15:27 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-30 15:50 ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 06/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add the framework of arithmetic operations Boqun Feng
2025-06-21 11:41 ` Gary Guo
2025-06-26 12:39 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-28 3:04 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 07/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add Atomic<u{32,64}> Boqun Feng
2025-06-26 12:47 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 08/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add Atomic<{usize,isize}> Boqun Feng
2025-06-26 12:49 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 09/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add Atomic<*mut T> Boqun Feng
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 10/10] rust: sync: Add memory barriers Boqun Feng
2025-06-26 13:36 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-28 3:42 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-30 9:54 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 20:22 ` [PATCH v5 00/10] LKMM generic atomics in Rust Alice Ryhl
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