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From: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
To: "Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 2/5] rust: support formatting of foreign types
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2025 12:09:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DB36T5JWBL10.2F56EDJ1XKAD0@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ-ks9kNiOgPO7FF3cAbaSNtTWs0_PzQ4k4W0AxjHNFuMJnDcQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri Jul 4, 2025 at 1:23 AM CEST, Tamir Duberstein wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 6:41 PM Tamir Duberstein <tamird@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 4:36 PM Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > I don't understand, can't you just do:
>> >
>> > * add `rust/kernel/fmt.rs`,
>> > * add `rust/macros/fmt.rs`,
>> > * change all occurrences of `core::fmt` to `kernel::fmt` and
>> >   `format_args!` to `fmt!`.
>>
>> Yes, such a split could be done - I will do so in the next spin
>>
>>
>> > The last one could be split by subsystem, no? Some subsystems might
>> > interact and thus need simultaneous splitting, but there should be some
>> > independent ones.
>>
>> Yes, it probably can. As you say, some subsystems might interact - the
>> claimed benefit of doing this subsystem-by-subsystem split is that it
>> avoids conflicts with ongoing work that will conflict with a large
>> patch, but this is also the downside; if ongoing work changes the set
>> of interactions between subsystems then a maintainer may find
>> themselves unable to emit the log message they want (because one
>> subsystem is using kernel::fmt while another is still on core::fmt).
>
> I gave this a try. I ran into the problem that `format_args!` (and,
> after this patch, `fmt!`) is at the center of `print_macro!`, which
> itself underpins various other formatting macros. This means we'd have
> to bifurcate the formatting infrastructure to support an incremental
> migration. That's quite a bit of code, and likely quite a mess in the
> resulting git history -- and that's setting aside the toil required to
> figure out the correct combinations of subsystems that must migrate
> together.

So here is what we can do without duplicating the logic, though it
requires multiple cycles:

1. We merge the two `fmt.rs` files & each subsystem merges an
   implementation of `kernel::fmt::Display` for their types, but keeps
   the `core::fmt::Display` impl around.
2. After all subsystems have merged the previous step, we change the
   implementations of `print_macro!` to use `fmt!` instead of
   `format_args!`.
3. We remove all occurrences of `core::fmt` (& replace them with
   `kernel::fmt`), removing the `core::fmt::Display` impls.

---
Cheers,
Benno

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-04 10:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-01 16:49 [PATCH v13 0/5] rust: replace kernel::str::CStr w/ core::ffi::CStr Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-01 16:49 ` [PATCH v13 1/5] rust: macros: reduce collections in `quote!` macro Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-01 16:49 ` [PATCH v13 2/5] rust: support formatting of foreign types Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-03  9:32   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 13:55     ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-03 15:08       ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 18:55         ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-03 19:16           ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-03 20:36           ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 22:41             ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-03 23:23               ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-04 10:09                 ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-07-04 11:58                   ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-04 12:15                     ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-04 19:38                       ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-05  8:04                         ` Andrew Lunn
2025-07-04  7:57               ` Andrew Lunn
2025-07-04 10:05               ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 21:28           ` Andrew Lunn
2025-07-03 21:38             ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-03 22:45               ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-04  7:46                 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-07-04  8:40                 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-03 16:26       ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-03 18:57         ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-01 16:49 ` [PATCH v13 3/5] rust: replace `CStr` with `core::ffi::CStr` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-04 13:00   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-04 19:38     ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-01 16:49 ` [PATCH v13 4/5] rust: replace `kernel::c_str!` with C-Strings Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-04 13:01   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-04 19:38     ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-01 16:49 ` [PATCH v13 5/5] rust: remove core::ffi::CStr reexport Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-01 17:07 ` [PATCH v13 0/5] rust: replace kernel::str::CStr w/ core::ffi::CStr Miguel Ojeda

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