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From: Alejandro Vallejo <alejandro.garciavallejo@amd.com>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Jason Andryuk <jason.andryuk@amd.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
	"Anthony PERARD" <anthony.perard@vates.tech>,
	"Michal Orzel" <michal.orzel@amd.com>,
	"Julien Grall" <julien@xen.org>,
	"Daniel P . Smith" <dpsmith@apertussolutions.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] x86: generalise vcpu0 creation for a domain
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2025 11:46:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DBF3328087KY.3CR27JZGGQXV4@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <426330c3-ab77-46ae-89eb-1b67224afd3f@suse.com>

On Fri Jul 18, 2025 at 8:42 AM CEST, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 18.07.2025 02:04, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2025, Jason Andryuk wrote:
>>> On 2025-07-17 13:51, Alejandro Vallejo wrote:
>>>> Make alloc_dom0_vcpu0() viable as a general vcpu0 allocator. Keep
>>>> behaviour on any hwdom/ctldom identical to that dom0 used to have, and
>>>> make non-dom0 have auto node affinity.
>>>>
>>>> Rename the function to alloc_dom_vcpu0() to reflect this change in
>>>> scope, and move the prototype to asm/domain.h from xen/domain.h as it's
>>>> only used in x86.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Daniel P. Smith <dpsmith@apertussolutions.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Alejandro Vallejo <alejandro.garciavallejo@amd.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>   xen/arch/x86/dom0_build.c             | 12 ++++++++----
>>>>   xen/arch/x86/include/asm/dom0_build.h |  5 +++++
>>>>   xen/arch/x86/setup.c                  |  6 ++++--
>>>>   xen/include/xen/domain.h              |  1 -
>>>>   4 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/xen/arch/x86/dom0_build.c b/xen/arch/x86/dom0_build.c
>>>> index 0b467fd4a4..dfae7f888f 100644
>>>> --- a/xen/arch/x86/dom0_build.c
>>>> +++ b/xen/arch/x86/dom0_build.c
>>>> @@ -254,12 +254,16 @@ unsigned int __init dom0_max_vcpus(void)
>>>>       return max_vcpus;
>>>>   }
>>>>   -struct vcpu *__init alloc_dom0_vcpu0(struct domain *dom0)
>>>> +struct vcpu *__init alloc_dom_vcpu0(struct domain *d)
>>>>   {
>>>> -    dom0->node_affinity = dom0_nodes;
>>>> -    dom0->auto_node_affinity = !dom0_nr_pxms;
>>>> +    d->auto_node_affinity = true;
>>>> +    if ( is_hardware_domain(d) || is_control_domain(d) )
>>>
>>> Do we want dom0 options to apply to:
>>> hardware or control
>>> just hardware
>>> just dom0 (hardware && control && xenstore)
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> I think "just dom0" may make the most sense.  My next preference is just
>>> hardware.  Control I think should be mostly a domU except for having
>>> is_privileged = true;

I could get behind just hardware, but I don't think the xenstore cap bears much
importance in this.

>> 
>> Great question. Certainly dom0 options, such as dom0_mem, should not
>> apply to Control, and certainly they should apply to regular Dom0.

But what is a regular dom0, when not booted regularly? What is it that makes
dom0 quack like a dom0 and not like a domU? It may very well be the case that
it's the regularity of dom0 that makes it a dom0, and cannot be sensibly
described in the presence of split ctl/hw domains.

>> 
>> The interesting question is whether they should apply to the Hardware
>> Domain. Some of the Dom0 options make sense for the Hardware Domain and
>> there isn't an equivalent config option available via Dom0less bindings.

Well, bindings can be easily created. nmi= in particular can be trivially
directed anywhere via a boolean binding attached to any domain.

The fact that the bindings are less granular than the dom0 cmdline due
to not being needed until now.

>> I am not thinking about the dom0_* options but things like nmi=dom0. For
>> simplicity and ease of use I would say they should apply to the Hardware
>> Domain.

That's a fun case. So when nmi=dom0 the report goes to the hwdom even if it's
not dom0 (i.e: late hwdom).

>
> Interesting indeed. So far we more or less aliased hwdom == dom0.
>
> Jan

Some arguments do want to be adjusted one way or the other spec_ctrl.c makes
heavy assumptions about there not being any hwdom/ctldom separation, and both
having domain_id == 0. There are other cases.

Yet another option is to single-out the Hyperlaunch/dom0less case and never
apply dom0 commandline overrides there (dom0_*=). It'd be a flag in
boot_domain. Might even allow us to compile them out altogether for
dom0less-only configurations (e.g: CONFIG_DOM0LESS_BOOT && !CONFIG_DOM0_BOOT, or
something like that).

Thoughts?

Cheers,
Alejandro


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-18  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-17 17:51 [PATCH 0/2] generalise vcpu0 creation for predefined domains Alejandro Vallejo
2025-07-17 17:51 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm: Remove alloc_dom0_vcpu0() Alejandro Vallejo
2025-07-17 21:42   ` Jason Andryuk
2025-07-17 23:56     ` Stefano Stabellini
2025-07-17 17:51 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86: generalise vcpu0 creation for a domain Alejandro Vallejo
2025-07-17 22:09   ` Jason Andryuk
2025-07-18  0:04     ` Stefano Stabellini
2025-07-18  6:42       ` Jan Beulich
2025-07-18  9:46         ` Alejandro Vallejo [this message]
2025-07-22 23:48           ` Stefano Stabellini
2025-07-22 14:45   ` Jan Beulich
2025-07-22 17:29     ` Alejandro Vallejo

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