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From: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
To: "Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>,
	"Mitchell Levy" <levymitchell0@gmail.com>,
	"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rust: sync: fix safety comment for `static_lock_class`
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2025 20:50:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DBIT5KD4CXDZ.1MZUPQMAWL4Y8@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aH-hcnZ3hiQIQj-5@tardis-2.local>

On Tue Jul 22, 2025 at 4:34 PM CEST, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 02:03:25PM +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
>> On Tue Jul 22, 2025 at 1:34 PM CEST, Alice Ryhl wrote:
>> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 1:21 PM Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org> wrote:
>> >> On Wed May 21, 2025 at 1:17 AM CEST, Benno Lossin wrote:
>> >> > The safety comment mentions lockdep -- which from a Rust perspective
>> >> > isn't important -- and doesn't mention the real reason for why it's
>> >> > sound to create `LockClassKey` as uninitialized memory.
>> >> >
>> >> > Signed-off-by: Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org>
>> >> > ---
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't think we need to backport this.
>> >> >
>> >> > ---
>> >> >  rust/kernel/sync.rs | 7 +++++--
>> >> >  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>> >> >
>> >> > diff --git a/rust/kernel/sync.rs b/rust/kernel/sync.rs
>> >> > index 36a719015583..a10c812d8777 100644
>> >> > --- a/rust/kernel/sync.rs
>> >> > +++ b/rust/kernel/sync.rs
>> >> > @@ -93,8 +93,11 @@ fn drop(self: Pin<&mut Self>) {
>> >> >  macro_rules! static_lock_class {
>> >> >      () => {{
>> >> >          static CLASS: $crate::sync::LockClassKey =
>> >> > -            // SAFETY: lockdep expects uninitialized memory when it's handed a statically allocated
>> >> > -            // lock_class_key
>> >> > +            // Lockdep expects uninitialized memory when it's handed a statically allocated `struct
>> >> > +            // lock_class_key`.
>> >> > +            //
>> >> > +            // SAFETY: `LockClassKey` transparently wraps `Opaque` which permits uninitialized
>> >> > +            // memory.
>> >> >              unsafe { ::core::mem::MaybeUninit::uninit().assume_init() };
>> >>
>> >> Looking at this patch with fresh eyes (thanks for the bump, Alice :) I
>> >> think we should rather have a public unsafe function on `LockClassKey`
>> >> that creates an uninitialized lock class key. I'd like to avoid the
>> >> `MaybeUninit::uninit().assume_init()` pattern, as it might confuse
>> >> people & it looks very wrong.
>> >>
>> >> We can take this patch, as it definitely is an improvement, but I think
>> >> we should also just fix this properly. Any thoughts?
>> >
>> > Could that constructor be used in non-static cases?
>> 
>> I don't know lockdep, so maybe yes? Or do you mean that it could be
>
> Using in non-static cases is wrong. For static keys, lockdep could use
> it address as keys but for dynamic keys, since they can be freed, they
> have to be registered before use (that's what
> `LockClassKey::new_dynamic()` is about.
>
> See this:
>
> 	https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/20240815074519.2684107-3-nmi@metaspace.dk/
>
> We would need to add "for static only" for the proposed unsafe function.

Yeah sounds good, I like it better than using the pattern above. We can
also make it `#[doc(hidden)]`, so people don't use it :)

---
Cheers,
Benno

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-22 18:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-20 23:17 [PATCH] rust: sync: fix safety comment for `static_lock_class` Benno Lossin
2025-07-22 11:14 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-07-22 11:21 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-22 11:34   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-07-22 12:03     ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-22 14:34       ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-22 18:50         ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-07-22 11:39   ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-22 11:54 ` Miguel Ojeda

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