From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
To: "Joel Fernandes" <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/5] Introduce bitfield and move register macro to rust/kernel/
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2025 00:08:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DDCFLM3P5MCC.NEBRVTU7X2G3@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <faa99188-7ccb-4c7c-b705-3a207f5acd17@nvidia.com>
On Tue Oct 7, 2025 at 11:08 PM CEST, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> Danilo, Yuri, Miguel, John, all,
>
> On 10/7/2025 9:16 AM, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>> On Tue Oct 7, 2025 at 12:36 PM CEST, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>>> Because letting it fully mature within nova-core also has the drawback
>>> that we might miss the perspective of other potential users, which may
>>> make us draw ourselves into a corner that will make the macro less
>>> useful generally speaking. We are at a stage where we can still make
>>> design changes if needed, but we need to hear from other users, and
>>> these won't come as long as the macro is in nova-core.
>>
>> There are two different things here that are getting mixed up a bit.
>>
>> (1) Moving the register!() code out of nova-core to make it accessible for
>> other drivers.
>>
>> (2) Generalize the bitfield implementation that so far is baked into the
>> register!() code.
>>
>> Both of those make sense, but they don't have to happen at the same time
>> necessarily.
>>
>> Now, I'm not saying that we necessarily have to change the approach here. The
>> current merge window isn't even closed, so we have plently of time left, i.e.
>> there's no rush with with patch series.
>>
>> However, if it helps, I'm perfectly fine to take the register!() implementation
>> into the I/O entry in a first step and in a second step generalize the bitfield
>> implementation and move it out of the register!() code.
>>
>> Again, there's no rush as far as I'm concerned, yet the latter approach might
>> add a bit more structure and hence run a bit smoother.
>
> In my view it is better to move both bitfield and register macros together
> because if we only moved register, it means we would have no bitfield support
> for the page table / mm use case I just posted a patch for (which is why I
> started looking into Bitfield support initially) unless we create a copy of just
> the bitfield code within nova which we definitely shouldn't I think. So I think
> it is best to move both.
Again, fine for me either way, but I wanted to open the possibility.
Typically, things run more smoothly when focusing on one thing at a time.
Especially when one thing is done to unblock something else, while the other
things needs some more discussion and might require a more slow-paced approach.)
(Slightly off-topic: Regarding the bitfields for page table management: Are we
sure that we can use raw bitfields for this? I.e. will we always be able to
configure the GPU to match CPU endianness?)
> For the IO (register macro) change, I can add add an entry to the existing IO
> record.
I don't think any changes are needed, it should be covered by just moving it to
rust/kernel/io/register.rs.
Thanks,
Danilo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-07 22:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-03 15:47 [PATCH v6 0/5] Introduce bitfield and move register macro to rust/kernel/ Joel Fernandes
2025-10-03 15:47 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] nova-core: bitfield: Move bitfield-specific code from register! into new macro Joel Fernandes
2025-10-06 17:56 ` Edwin Peer
2025-10-07 6:49 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-03 15:47 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] nova-core: bitfield: Add support for different storage widths Joel Fernandes
2025-10-03 15:47 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] nova-core: bitfield: Add support for custom visiblity Joel Fernandes
2025-10-03 15:47 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] rust: Move register and bitfield macros out of Nova Joel Fernandes
2025-10-06 10:38 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-09 6:59 ` Dirk Behme
2025-10-09 11:16 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-09 11:28 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-09 12:54 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-11-01 18:51 ` Dirk Behme
2025-11-02 3:00 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-13 6:26 ` Dirk Behme
2025-10-10 7:28 ` Dirk Behme
2025-10-22 18:40 ` Beata Michalska
2025-10-22 19:37 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-23 13:55 ` Beata Michalska
2025-10-23 14:07 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-23 21:47 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-23 21:50 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-27 9:06 ` Beata Michalska
2025-10-27 9:56 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-27 15:05 ` Beata Michalska
2025-10-03 15:47 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] rust: bitfield: Add KUNIT tests for bitfield Joel Fernandes
2025-10-06 10:37 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-06 19:38 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-06 20:36 ` [PATCH v7] " Joel Fernandes
2025-10-06 18:05 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] Introduce bitfield and move register macro to rust/kernel/ Edwin Peer
2025-10-06 22:29 ` Yury Norov
2025-10-07 10:36 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-07 10:42 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-10-07 13:20 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-07 16:06 ` Yury Norov
2025-10-07 16:12 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-10-07 13:16 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-07 21:08 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-07 22:08 ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2025-10-08 14:28 ` Yury Norov
2025-10-08 15:00 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-07 15:41 ` Yury Norov
2025-10-07 21:41 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-10-08 15:49 ` Yury Norov
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-10-07 23:37 Joel Fernandes
2025-10-08 10:23 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-08 10:47 ` Greg KH
2025-10-08 10:49 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-09 0:24 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-09 13:02 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-08 19:56 Joel Fernandes
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