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From: "Daniel Zahka" <daniel.zahka@gmail.com>
To: "Kiran Kella" <kiran.kella@broadcom.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: "Daniel Zahka" <daniel.zahka@gmail.com>,
	"Willem de Bruijn" <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Randy Dunlap" <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	"Donald Hunter" <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 4/7] psp: add core tracked stat for outstanding tx keys
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2026 07:03:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DMH9T7NY96VZ.X2G6APCG51K0@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPHeo3c0RP34ASvzV3UrwDa4PvXHhuAOq1+-Bn0Z5+QXFV+BpA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu Oct 29, 2026 at 3:14 AM EDT, Kiran Kella wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2026 at 3:59 AM Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2026 17:16:17 +0530 Kiran Kella wrote:
>> > > +      -
>> > > +        name: tx-key-count
>> > > +        type: uint
>> > > +        doc: |
>> > > +          Current number of Tx keys installed on the device.
>> > > +          Only visible if the driver stores keys on device.
>> > > +          Kernel statistic.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Maybe it is good to have a counter that denotes the number of PSP
>> > sessions set up on a device, which is managed in
>> > psp_dev_tx_key_add/psp_dev_tx_key_del operations similar to the
>> > tx-key-count. That way, even in non-SADB drivers the user can know the
>> > scale of the PSP sessions set up on a device at any time.
>>
>> AFAIR the thinking was to also implicitly flag that the device has
>> an SADB here. So this stat should probably be called tx-sadb-key-count.
>> We couldn't think of a reason to count the tx keys when SADB is not
>> present. Rx keys? maybe, because of SPI exhaustion. Tx keys - why..
>
> Tx keys to just provide info to the user about the scale of active PSP
> bidirectional sessions (after the key exchange) for debuggability and
> for any other derived scaling/performance metrics.
> Especially for non-SADB drivers, where there is no device limit on the
> Tx keys that can be created (of course limited by the SPI exhaustion
> on the peer).

The main use case I had in mind was seeing how much of a device's SADB
was in use. If the usage is high, maybe the user will have a policy to
not even try rx-assoc (which always succeeds), just to fail tx-assoc
with -ENOSPC.

Total active PSP connections on a host is something I think users will
want to track. I'm not sure it needs kernel support though.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-29 11:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-09 20:46 [PATCH net-next v2 0/7] psp: support rekeying psp protected tcp connections Daniel Zahka
2026-10-09 20:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/7] psp: support rx rekey operation Daniel Zahka
2026-10-10 21:43   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-09 20:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/7] psp: support tx " Daniel Zahka
2026-10-10 21:43   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-09 20:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/7] psp: defer tx key deletions for SADB drivers Daniel Zahka
2026-10-10 21:43   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-09 20:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/7] psp: add core tracked stat for outstanding tx keys Daniel Zahka
2026-10-10 21:43   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-28 11:46   ` Kiran Kella
2026-10-28 22:29     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-10-29  7:14       ` Kiran Kella
2026-10-29 11:03         ` Daniel Zahka [this message]
2026-10-09 20:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/7] selftests: drv-net: psp: factor out psp connection setup Daniel Zahka
2026-10-10 21:43   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-09 20:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 6/7] selftests: drv-net: psp: add rekey tests Daniel Zahka
2026-10-10 21:43   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-09 20:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 7/7] selftests: drv-net: psp: add a tx rekey drain test for SADB drivers Daniel Zahka
2026-10-20 11:12 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/7] psp: support rekeying psp protected tcp connections Daniel Zahka

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