From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>, Jeff Dike <jdike@karaya.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Arch option to touch newly allocated pages
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:59:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E16ict0-0002zT-00@starship.berlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3C84F449.8090404@zytor.com> <200203051812.NAA03363@ccure.karaya.com> <20020305133054.B432@redhat.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020305133054.B432@redhat.com>
On March 5, 2002 07:30 pm, Benjamin LaHaise wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 01:12:19PM -0500, Jeff Dike wrote:
> > Really? And you're unconcerned about the impact on the rest of the system
> > of a UML grabbing (say) 128M of memory when it starts up? Especially if it
> > may never use it?
>
> Honestly, I think that most people want to know if the system they've setup
> is overcommited at as early a point as possible: a UML failing at startup
> with out of memory is better than random segvs at some later point when the
> system is under load. Refer to the principle of least surprise. And if the
> user truely wants to disable that, well, you can give them a command line
> option to shoot themselves in the foot with.
Suppose you have 512 MB memory and an equal amount of swap. You start 8
umls with 64 MB each. With your and Peter's suggestion, the system always
goes into swap. Whereas if the memory is only allocated on demand it
probably doesn't.
--
Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-03-06 15:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-03-03 21:12 [RFC] Arch option to touch newly allocated pages Jeff Dike
2002-03-03 22:01 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-03 23:27 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-03 23:48 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-04 3:16 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-04 3:35 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-04 5:04 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-04 15:09 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-04 17:42 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-04 18:29 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-04 18:36 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-04 18:49 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-04 20:46 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-04 22:49 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-04 17:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-04 18:34 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-04 18:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-04 20:36 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-04 22:51 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-05 4:15 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-05 4:28 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-03-05 4:40 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-05 5:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-05 14:43 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-05 16:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-05 16:56 ` Wayne Whitney
2002-03-05 18:12 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-05 18:30 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-03-06 14:59 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2002-03-06 15:24 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-03-06 15:24 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-06 16:36 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-03-06 23:14 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-06 23:20 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-03-06 23:26 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-06 23:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-07 0:08 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-07 1:27 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-07 1:52 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-03-08 19:17 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-08 21:22 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-03-07 13:49 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-07 13:36 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-07 14:04 ` yodaiken
2002-03-07 14:21 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-07 14:38 ` yodaiken
2002-03-07 15:31 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-07 16:50 ` yodaiken
2002-03-07 18:07 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-07 18:15 ` yodaiken
2002-03-07 19:22 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-07 22:43 ` David Woodhouse
2002-03-07 23:09 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-07 22:57 ` David Woodhouse
2002-03-07 14:43 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-07 15:32 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-07 16:19 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-07 17:54 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-07 15:34 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-07 19:18 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 20:10 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 20:56 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 21:23 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 22:02 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 22:10 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 22:23 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 22:27 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 22:41 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 22:42 ` David Lang
2002-03-06 16:03 ` Jesse Pollard
2002-03-06 17:08 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-06 17:33 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-07 0:28 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-07 0:44 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-05 18:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-06 1:30 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-06 10:49 ` David Woodhouse
2002-03-06 14:26 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-06 16:50 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-06 20:25 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-06 20:54 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-06 21:27 ` Malcolm Beattie
2002-03-06 23:26 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-06 21:27 ` David Woodhouse
2002-03-06 22:25 ` Joseph Malicki
2002-03-07 0:04 ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-07 0:28 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-07 0:44 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-06 22:21 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-07 11:30 ` Dave Jones
2002-03-07 18:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-05 14:43 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-05 16:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-05 18:14 ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-05 18:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-05 17:30 ` Jan Harkes
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