From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 6/12] hold atomic kmaps across generic_file_read
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 10:00:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E17dndv-0001ei-00@starship> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0208101529490.2401-100000@home.transmeta.com>
On Sunday 11 August 2002 00:42, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> For example, what do you do when somebody has a COW-page mapped into it's
> VM space and you want to start paging stuff out?
Clearly it requires a CoW break and swapping out that page won't free any
memory directly, but it will in turn allow the cache page to be dropped. I
suppose your point is that these ideas touch the system in a lot of places,
and right now the code is a little too irregular to withstand lathering on a
new layer of cruft. That's true, but <plug>the reverse mapping work
enables some fundamental VM simplifications that make a lot of things more
local, and so a better base for these new, sophisticated features is on its
way.</plug>
> There are "interesting"
> cases that just may mean that doing the COW thing is a really stupid thing
> to do, even if it is intriguing to _think_ about it.
It is good sport, but the real benefits are compelling and will only get more
so. For high end scientific uses (read supercomputing clusters) it's a cinch
developers will prefer high speed file operations that turn in nearly the
same raw performance on large transfers as O_DIRECT while not bypassing the
file cache.
--
Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-08-11 7:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-08-10 0:57 [patch 6/12] hold atomic kmaps across generic_file_read Andrew Morton
2002-08-10 1:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 3:53 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-10 3:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 6:12 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-10 7:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 9:08 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-10 12:44 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-10 17:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 18:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-10 18:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 18:46 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-10 14:16 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-10 17:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 17:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-08-10 17:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 17:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-08-10 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 18:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-10 19:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-08-10 19:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-12 15:20 ` Ingo Oeser
2002-08-12 0:18 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-08-12 14:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-12 14:46 ` David Woodhouse
2002-08-10 19:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-08-10 22:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-11 3:17 ` Simon Kirby
2002-08-11 6:07 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-11 8:46 ` Simon Kirby
2002-08-11 9:36 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-11 9:49 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-11 10:28 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-11 18:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-12 3:28 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-12 3:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-12 4:08 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-12 6:20 ` Simon Kirby
2002-08-12 6:44 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-12 19:43 ` Trond Myklebust
2002-08-12 20:43 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-11 8:00 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2002-08-11 19:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-11 19:43 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-11 0:34 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-11 0:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-11 1:27 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-12 7:45 ` Rusty Russell
2002-08-12 9:45 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-12 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-12 21:21 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-12 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
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