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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
To: trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no, Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
Cc: trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no, Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	Urban Widmark <urban@teststation.com>,
	Chuck Lever <cel@citi.umich.edu>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: invalidate_inode_pages in 2.5.32/3
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:49:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E17ta9C-0003bo-00@starship> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15759.31838.68147.725840@charged.uio.no>

On Monday 23 September 2002 22:41, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> >>>>> " " == Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com> writes:
> 
>      > Would it be possible to mark the inode as "needs invalidation",
>      > and make user processes check that flag once they have i_sem?
> 
> Not good enough unless you add those checks at the VFS/MM level.

Please see Rik's suggestion and my followups where we are talking about
handling this in the MM.

> Think
> for instance about mmap() where the filesystem is usually not involved
> once a pagein has occurred.
> 
>      > Do we really need to invalidate individual pages, or is it
>      > real-life acceptable to invalidate the whole mapping?
> 
> Invalidating the mapping is certainly a good alternative if it can be
> done cleanly.

But invalidate_inode_pages is (usually) just trying to do exactly that.
It doesn't work.  Anyway, what if you have a 2 gig file with 1 meg
mmaped/locked/whatever by a database?

> Note that in doing so, we do not want to invalidate any reads or
> writes that may have been already scheduled. The existing mapping
> still would need to hang around long enough to permit them to
> complete.

With the mechanism I described above, that would just work.  The fault
path would do lock_page, thus waiting for the IO to complete.

-- 
Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-23 20:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-05 14:25 invalidate_inode_pages in 2.5.32/3 Chuck Lever
2002-09-05 18:27 ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-05 18:53   ` Chuck Lever
2002-09-05 19:17     ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-05 20:00       ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-05 20:15         ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-05 20:27           ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-05 20:37             ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-05 20:51               ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-05 21:12                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-05 21:31                   ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-05 22:19                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-06  0:48                       ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-06  1:08                         ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-06  6:49                           ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-07  8:37                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-07 16:09                             ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-07 17:02                               ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-07  8:24                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-07 16:06                         ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 21:08                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 21:36                             ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 22:12                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-07 18:47                         ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-07 23:09                           ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 21:44                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 22:03                               ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 22:19                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 22:32                                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-10 16:57                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 23:51                                   ` Chuck Lever
2002-09-10  1:07                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10 15:09                                       ` Chuck Lever
2002-09-10 16:13                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10 19:04                                           ` Chuck Lever
2002-09-10 20:52                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-11  0:07                                               ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-11  0:27                                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-11  0:38                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-11  0:53                                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-11  1:49                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-11  2:14                                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-11 16:18                                                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-11 17:14                                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 19:06                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 22:05                                         ` Urban Widmark
2002-09-12 22:21                                           ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-12 22:30                                             ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-12 22:43                                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 22:51                                               ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-12 23:05                                                 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-09-12 23:23                                                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-12 23:53                                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-23 16:38                                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-23 17:16                                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-23 18:57                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-23 20:41                                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-23 20:49                                                       ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2002-09-23 22:43                                                         ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-24  5:09                                                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-24 16:40                                                             ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-23 19:13                                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13  4:19                                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13  4:52                                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-14  9:58                                             ` Urban Widmark
2002-09-12 13:04                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-12 18:21                                       ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-12 21:15                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 21:38                                           ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-12 21:52                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-05 22:01                   ` Chuck Lever
2002-09-05 22:23                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-05 21:41           ` Chuck Lever
2002-09-06  9:35     ` Helge Hafting
2002-09-06 16:16       ` Chuck Lever
2002-09-07  8:01   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-07 10:01     ` Daniel Phillips

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